SMIL Files

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Thu May 13, 2004 8:33 pm

How do I play SMIL files? I recently downloaded Sailor Moon episdoe 67 with the following files:

- sm67episode in SMIL Multimedia Presentation format
- smr067 in RealText format
- smr067 in RealPlayer Presentation format

Someone said I had to open all three at the same time, someone else said I had to combine them...I have no idea what to do please help!

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Thu May 13, 2004 8:49 pm

Can't say I've encountered one, but this player purports to play them.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Thu May 13, 2004 8:53 pm

Have you tried opening the .smil file directly in Real Player? I think that's all it takes, but if someone out there is more sure of the real answer, feel free to correct me.

Jumbled Thoughts · Post by **MarioKnight** » Thu May 13, 2004 11:44 pm

You're right Starscream. Make sure all three files are in the same folder, and just open the smil file in real player. The subtitles will be in a black bar directly below the video.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Fri May 14, 2004 7:02 am

All three are in the same folder, with nothing else in the folder besides those three files. (Probably should have mentioned that ^.^;;) Also, I did try opening it with realplayer and I got an error. I'm going to try the player SailorAsteroid suggested.

EDIT // I tried the player, but it said, now on both players, that the link is "outdated" even though I was clicking on the SMIL file from the same folder as the other two. What's wrong with these? I downloaded directly from a webpage, if it helps. Which webpage, I forgot.

LilEva · Post by **LilEva** » Fri May 14, 2004 8:52 am

Um, you downloaded it from me and it works fine for me. I use Real One to play my the .smi file. But I have used version 7 and other versions of Real Player and it works fine.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Fri May 14, 2004 12:43 pm

LilEva wrote:Um, you downloaded it from me...

Hai, thank you SO VERY much.

Is there a way to tell which version you have, and what would cause the link to be "outdated" ?

shansen · Post by **shansen** » Sat May 15, 2004 1:11 am

From http://musicsojourn.com/Info_Pages/realhelp.htm :

This problem occurs with Internet Explorer when there are a huge amount of "temporary internet files" stored on your local computer's C drive. To resolve the problem, go to your Real Player menu under "View" / "Preferences" and select the "Performance" Tab. Under the 2nd item down - "Clip Cache" - click the "Settings" button, then click "Empty Clip Cache." This may take up to a few minutes to complete.

Note that this problem may occur even if you have a lot (1GB+) free space on your drive. In cases where we have seen this, Emptying the Clip Cache, or just deleting the files from the directory that Real Player shows that it is using, has resolved the problem.

I have the most recent version of Real Player (version 10), and I also have the same files for episode 67, and it works fine. I also remember trying it in RealOne Player, as well as in an older version of Real Player (version 6 or 7), and it worked fine there, too.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Sat May 15, 2004 10:06 pm

I just tried clearing out all the temporary files and nada...the error I'm getting is

Requested file not found. The link you followed may be outdated or inaccurate.

file://C:/My Documents/episode67/smr067.rm

I'm confused about this becuase I DO have a file name "smr067.rm" in the folder along with the RealText file, all in the same folder I'm trying to open the SMIL file in. The RM file works just fine on it's own.

Thank you for trying to help me, minna. I'm thinking I have a few choices left, either download the files again (I would need someone to give me a URL...) get an episode dialouge transcript (Which I don't have) or learn Japanese, which I was able to catch a few phrases in the raw version, but I don't know much. The raw is OK, but I only have a vague idea of what's going on.

Once again, thank you for your help minna!

shansen · Post by **shansen** » Mon May 17, 2004 1:15 am

Take a look at http://service.real.com/help/errors/error14.html

Basically, I think the only point that applies is the final one - you might have to download the newest RealPlayer.

I doubt the problem is with the files themselves. The error message would seem to indicate that your version of RealPlayer is misbehaving.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Mon May 17, 2004 6:29 pm

Would RealRhapsody be it? I have v. 10 of realplayer. As far as my scanners say, my computer has no viruses / spyware. For reference, no, I don't think I have RealOne player anymore (The older version)

The raw file works fine, the realtext works fine, it's just the smil file. If it comes to it, I'll just type the dialouge on notepad and scroll through it while watching. The future of the SMIL file is looking pretty bleak.

shansen · Post by **shansen** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:06 am

The problem is almost certainly not with RealPlayer, from what I'm gathering.

You can actually open the .smil file in Notepad. (Open Notepad, select File -> Open, change the "Files of Type" to "All Files", and click on the .smil file). My file looks like this:

<smil>
<head>
<layout type="text/smil-basic-layout">
<region id="videoregion" top="0" left="0" width="316" height="236" background-color="#000000" fit="hidden"/>
<region id="textregion" top="237" left="0" width="316" height="25" background-color="#000000" fit="hidden"/>
</layout>
</head>
<body>

<seq>
<par>
<video src="smr067.rm" id="Episode 67" region="videoregion" fill="freeze"/>
<textstream src="sm067.rt" id="067-Subtitles" region="textregion" fill="freeze"/>
</par>
</seq>

</body>
</smil>

Pay extra special attention to the two lines beginning with "<video src=". The first file is the name of the RealMedia file. The second one (after the "<textstream src=") is the name of the RealText file. Make sure that these file names are identical to the ones in your directory.

Also, verify that the extensions are correct (in Windows Explorer, click Tools -> Folder Options, select the "View" tab, and uncheck "Hide Extensions for Known File Types"). Sometimes, the .rm extension will get mixed up with the .ram extension. I doubt they're exactly the same, so if the extension is different than the one listed in the .smil file I would recommend changing the .smil file.

I just tried to rename the .rm file to a non-existent file, and when I tried to open the .smil file it gave me the same error you had. Double-check the filenames - they have to be exactly the same as the ones listed in the .smil file, or else nothing will work.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Tue May 18, 2004 7:25 am

*Jumps up and down like a giddy schoolgirl* THAT WAS IT! THAT WAS IT!!!!!!!!

I opened up the text file, and renamed my old file "smr067" to "episode67" to help me distinguish it from the RealText. I copy / pasted the text format you gave me. It still wouldn't work, so I did the folder options. Turns out the "episode67.rm" on the sheet didn't match up with "episode67.ram" on the file. Then the realtext wouldn't work becuase I missed a letter. ^.^;;
I fixed it and tried opening it, and I didn't get any errors!

IT WORKS! THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

shansen · Post by **shansen** » Sat May 22, 2004 6:18 pm

You're welcome. I'm glad it worked out. After you described the problems, it became more apparent that the problem was some weirdness with the .smil file, and not RealPlayer or the other two files.