Botox? Good or Bad?

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 4:12 am

Is making yourself look younger than you are a positive thing, or not? Too shallow, or necessary to compete in the ironically youth-oriented business world?

Personally, since I don't care about my looks anyway and don't even wear make-up, so far as I know I wouldn't get Botox injections if I had permanent frown lines. I don't want to look fake-happy if I'm not!

By the way, Botox is a drug that is injected into the muscles that make you knit your eyebrows. It paralyzes those muscles so you can't furrow your brow, and it usually lasts about 3 months.

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:17 pm

Why, How could a paralysis indusing poison possibly be bad???

I think that there are plenty of other solutions, and when push comes to shove, get over it, you don't stay young forever and everyone gets wrinkls. You can't fight nature forever, sorry to disapoint those who thought that they could.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 2:33 pm

What sickens me somewhat are these Botox "parties", where women (and men, I guess) get together, eat, drink...then sit down and have a doctor inject this stuff into their heads. They then get up after some resting and continue on. [sentence removed]

Seems somewhat creepy to me...

yoshmaster5 · Post by **yoshmaster5** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:03 pm

Me thinks:
Doing things that make you look younger
putting on excessive amounts of make-up
wearing tons of perfume
products that are supposed to make you look younger: STUPID.

Lucied · Post by **Lucied** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:06 pm

Yeah, stupid and desperate

My opinion, of course

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 3:36 pm

I don't really care about it. If a person feels that they need it, then I'm all for them having it. Besides, if someone felt horrible because they looked old, then maybe this could help them feel better. I myself don't plan on ever having botox (then again, I've decided that I'm not again past 25! I'm just going to stop aging!), but others might. I don't care if they do or not. It's their life, and their body.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:49 pm

wow.
that's horridly gross.
the idea of those botox parties is even grosser.

Ojamajo_LimePie · Post by **Ojamajo_LimePie** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 7:05 pm

Botox itself isn't bad; what's bad is people that use it for vanity. My aunt has to have Botox injections every couple months in her esophogus so that she's able to eat. Without it, her esophogus would tighten up and she couldn't get food down. Botox has its uses.

Anthy · Post by **Anthy** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:00 pm

Ojamajo_LimePie wrote:Botox itself isn't bad; what's bad is people that use it for vanity. My aunt has to have Botox injections every couple months in her esophogus so that she's able to eat. Without it, her esophogus would tighten up and she couldn't get food down. Botox has its uses.

Wow, I had no idea Botox was used for that! ^^

But the idea of putting that stuff in your face for no really good reason makes me queasy.

J Anderson · Post by **J Anderson** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:05 pm

Well, it is a poison. I'd be a bit wary about letting someone inject me with poison.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:05 pm

Ojamajo_LimePie wrote:Botox itself isn't bad; what's bad is people that use it for vanity. My aunt has to have Botox injections every couple months in her esophogus so that she's able to eat. Without it, her esophogus would tighten up and she couldn't get food down. Botox has its uses.

I know that it has other uses besides getting rid of wrinkles, actually. The topic was about using it and other things to look younger. Also, Botox's famed use is on the frown lines, the wrinkles between one's eyebrows that express everything from anger to mere concentration. Often people don't just get Botox to look younger, they get it so that they can have a fakey pleasant appearance. They complain people think that they're angry when they're not. All I'll say to that is, you're going to look like the expression you use the most. If you scowl a lot, even if it's just when you're thinking hard, well, that's the way your wrinkles are going to look!

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:22 pm

I'm all for it being used in ACCTUAL medical emergencies (i.e. the food thing discussed earlier), however, freezing your face is just wrong (IMO). I think that the small, or even larg, line here and there shows character. Your lines are like a story of your life and your personality, I cherish my little scars and whatnot, but that's just me, and by no means to I think that it should be baned unless it's acctually killing people whenever it's used (not just when Doc's mess up).

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:49 pm

1) Actually, the idea that a bunch of people are all trying to just look fakey-happy all the time scares me. It reminds me of Brave New World, where you were penalized and given this fake euphoria drug called soma if you weren't happy all the time. Especially if you questioned things. I hope America isn't turning into that kind of place.

2) Another thing, you know how this kind of thing would be popular with actors and actresses? Well, now directors are complaining that some actors and actresses can't express anger properly, because they've been Botoxed!

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 8:59 pm

[off topic (sorry)]
I don't think that America is becoming so much like Brave New World as it is 1984, if you've read the book you probably know what I'm talking about.

[on topic again]
I know that Botox is poison, but where does it come from???

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:39 pm

Botox has something to do with the botulinism bacteria. The idea was that while botulinism paralyzes the lungs, it could be controlled and put in more localized spots where it could do less harm.

NameGoesHere · Post by **NameGoesHere** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:15 pm

For helpful medical purposes I have no problem. For making your face look like a polished marble statue of Aphrodite, I have a problem.
Seriously, I can't understand why anyone would want to get injected with a toxin that looks like the puss in those giant zits you get right before you have your picture taken. But hey, it's not my face, and it's not my muscles getting paralyzed.

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Fri Oct 17, 2003 11:24 pm

I would never use botox for cosmetic purposes. I think it's sad that some people think they need to.

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:19 pm

Dose anybody even know whether there are long lasting Side Effects after prolonged exposure, sure it works now, but what the hell is going to happen to you in 10 or 20 years. I guess my main problem with it, other than the fact that it's using a potentially deadly bacteria, is that I havn't heard enough info on what it dose in the long run.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:31 pm

That's because it's a very new drug. Long-term side-effects CAN'T be absolutely known yet, though scientists could hypothesize.

Anthy · Post by **Anthy** » Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:07 pm

I think older people who pay too much attention to looking young with cosmetic surgery look older than they really are. It just looks very plastic and fake. ::shrug::

If society has taught me anything, it's that your main goal in life should be to make enough money to buy yourself fountains of youth and beauty. Man, those botox doctors are really onto something here, making money off of people's insecurities! I thought only advertising agents did that! ^^