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Post by Senshi_of_Vision » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:42 pm

so do I Tiff, now if its the case of them taking a movie and redubbing the entire cast one race, which theyve done with such movies like Romeo and Julie, West Side Story and others then I dont get upset about those because its almost like broadway where different actors try on different roles. But if a story specially from a book is made into a movie and the character is changed ethnically just to be Politically Correct it bothers me. Its like oh look we dont need to follow the author's ideas for the characters, im sure the people who bothered reading the series wont care if we take a character and mix them around just to spice things up and diversify ugh I have and always will hate changes like that specially when it comes to movie remakes. Disney is good at that too I think someone mentioned Yours Mine and Ours I think that movie was a big time culprit of that too. Think about it wouldn't it have been easier to just make a new movie about people who have large diverse families? I mean come on there are plenty that do, instead they take a movie that was set back in the days where you really did not see families like that and modernize it just to add a few miniority faces (I believe an african america and asian kid) to the mix. Ugh it bothers me dunno why but it does.
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Post by SeiUsa » Sun May 27, 2007 9:50 pm

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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Sun May 27, 2007 10:17 pm

Techincally, the MGM version of The Wizard Of Oz itself is a remake since there had been several silent film versions of The Wizard Of Oz produced several years before it, including one produced by L. Frank Baum himself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/His_Majest ... crow_of_Oz
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Post by Senshi_of_Vision » Sun May 27, 2007 10:34 pm

Woah I had no idea so many versions of the story in movie version have been out. And you guys can throw the Wiz into that to even though that was just an ethnic take on the story. My thought is if they did honestly remake it and focus on the original story and not try to directly copy the Judy Garland pic I think id go and see it as long as it was made properly. But my faith in hollywood making such a flick is not high at all.


Though I will say for remakes I do appreciate are the marvel movies cause my god the ones from the 80s...ugh mentally repressing them still. I hope to god if they do a Captain America remake that they take nothing from that awful one from the 80s. Id like to see them do like they did with the Punisher which suprizingly I enjoyed try to stick with the core story and have a the actor playing the character actually fit.. (has seizure remembering the Dolph Lungdren version...)
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Post by SeiUsa » Mon Jun 11, 2007 12:36 am

OK...*now* I remember which movie remakes I like best. =P

* The Disney version of The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. Yes, I know the BBC version didn't have a huge budget or anything, but the Disney version really makes the characters come alive and are more developed. That goes for the book as well. This is one of the few movies that I think is better than the book.

* Thirteen Ghosts. I always get a backlash for this one. =P Don't ask me why I prefer the newer one. Well actuualy, the ghosts and their past lives really interest me, and so does the glass house. =P Again, don't ask.
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Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Fri Aug 10, 2007 11:41 am

Senshi_of_Vision wrote:Woah I had no idea so many versions of the story in movie version have been out. And you guys can throw the Wiz into that to even though that was just an ethnic take on the story. My thought is if they did honestly remake it and focus on the original story and not try to directly copy the Judy Garland pic I think id go and see it as long as it was made properly. But my faith in hollywood making such a flick is not high at all.
The only problem I can see arising from that is that [spoiler]the Tin Woodsman decapitates a cat, saves some mice and has them build a cart to get through the poppy field.[/spoiler]

That sounds just a little too violent for any movie.
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Fri Aug 10, 2007 6:08 pm

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote:
The only problem I can see arising from that is that [spoiler]the Tin Woodsman decapitates a cat, saves some mice and has them build a cart to get through the poppy field.[/spoiler]

That sounds just a little too violent for any movie.
A more problematic scene than that IMO is the scene of [spoiler]the Tin Woodsman past's where the Wicked Witch Of The East curses his axe to cut off all his body parts and stab himself in the heart when he's still made of flesh.[/spoiler] which is sadly my favorite part of the book and part of the reason why I loathe the Judy Garland film, although this scene was referenced to in Return To Oz.
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Nov 19, 2007 6:30 pm

Well, pigs officially can fly. Sci-Fi Channel will be airing a sci-fi "reimagining" mini-series of The Wizard Of Oz, entitled "Tin Man" on December 2nd, 2007 at 9:00 p.m. Here's a trailer for it on youtube: http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Sjnie-aqYw I usually try to be open minded about remakes and reimaginings of fairy tales, after all Wicked is one of my favorite books and I'd love to see a remake of The Wizard Of Oz that stays closer to the novel, but this isn't a "reimagining." This is more like elaborate fanfiction if anything else. This just feels like a cliched "oridnary girl gets sent into another world and goes on a magical coming-of-age quest to save said world" storyline that's been done to death a thousand times with Oz randomly slapped in to give it some vague connection to the original novel. I'll admit that the special affects look impressive but it takes more than flashy special effects to make a good movie. For some reason, referring to The Wizard Of Oz as being an "epic" makes me wonder if these people have even read the book or at least seen the MGM film. The Wizard Of Oz will always be one of my favorite books but by calling it "epic" it makes it seem like they're trying to be hardcore or something because when I think of "epic" fantasy, I tend to think of stuff like LOTR or Harry Potter. The Wizard Of Oz is more like a modern fairytale than an "epic" fantasy. And I don't know why, but calling Oz the "O-Z" just makes me want to roll my eyes. :roll: I'll probably still watch it out of curiosity and just because it's new Oz, but I don't have high hopes for it.
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Post by Queen Of Hearts » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:21 pm

This just feels like a cliched "oridnary girl gets sent into another world and goes on a magical coming-of-age quest to save said world" storyline that's been done to death a thousand times with Oz randomly slapped in to give it some vague connection to the original novel.
And the Wizard of Oz didn't do that as well? I'm fairly interested. Sure the "Ordinary girl get sent to a new world" plot is cliche, but honestly, what ISN'T a cliche these days.

I'm interested in this...
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Post by peachvampiress » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:04 pm

I think I heard that they're making a movie based on Todd McFarlane's Wizard of Oz figures (click here if you've never seen them).

Because when I think of the Wizard of Oz, I think of a porno-snuff film -_-
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:10 pm

Queen Of Hearts wrote:
And the Wizard of Oz didn't do that as well? I'm fairly interested. Sure the "Ordinary girl get sent to a new world" plot is cliche, but honestly, what ISN'T a cliche these days.

I'm interested in this...
Expect The Wizard Of Oz was written way back in 1900. You'd think we'd be able to come up with something else by now. And this whole idea of doing a sci-fi reimagining The Wizard Of Oz with sci-fi elements isn't exactly original. See Lost In Oz: http://youtube.com/watch?v=RfhsXRkX9_Q
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Post by Hobbes » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:28 am

Yuck, I just remembered Guess Who.

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Post by yamichan2 » Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:07 am

The remake of Posiden Adventure did suck. The original wasn't bad at all and personally I like it. But the remake is awful. Posiden is not a good title for a movie like this and it just doesn't make sense, even if it were the original it wouldn't make sense. And the charectors were flat in the remake.

I never liked any of the Wizard of Oz material. I don't know why.

However I have to dissagree with the earlier opinion of the Charlie and the Chocolate factory. The original with Gene Wilder was radically different from the books. They even changed the name to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. In the newer version the Oompa Loompa songs are actually from the book and the new Willy is much more simalar to the one in the book. Though neither movie is perfect the more recent one is not horrible. I personally like it better. I think it is funnier and makes a bit more sense. At least that is how I feel.

Now as for other remakes, I am hoping that the new Sweeney Todd movie is well made. I have seen the original musical done by a couple of casts and it is brilliant, so I hope they do well.
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Post by Senshi_of_Vision » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:35 pm

Welp I have to take back my saying on Stephen King books being remade into movies. I re watched The Stand and while I still think in whole it is crappy compared to the novel (which im re reading) some of the acting was excellent. Bill Fagerbakke as Tom Cullen was just awesome he really brought life into that character. I also liked Gary Sinise as Stan though I didnt the first time I watched and Molly Ringwald did a decent job as Fran as well. I think Flagg's personality could have been made darker like he is in all the books though that was my main peeve about the tv movie. Also the actor portraying him looked more like a 80's rock star then a guy who could charm the socks off you then tear out your heart. But Laura SanGiacomo did a very good Nadine, and Rob Lowe as Nick Andros was pretty good to.

And The Mist, even though the ending was changed (woo which I loved it that was just awesome) and the cgi monsters kinda irked me I loved it, I think its the first movie adapted from one of his books I didnt hate completely. Frank Darabond needs to direct more of Stephen Kings adapted works IMO.
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Fri Dec 28, 2007 7:07 pm

yamichan2 wrote:
However I have to dissagree with the earlier opinion of the Charlie and the Chocolate factory. The original with Gene Wilder was radically different from the books. They even changed the name to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. In the newer version the Oompa Loompa songs are actually from the book and the new Willy is much more simalar to the one in the book. Though neither movie is perfect the more recent one is not horrible. I personally like it better. I think it is funnier and makes a bit more sense. At least that is how I feel.
I personally agree with this. Although I've never read the book, I never liked the original movie because it always bored me to tears but I thought the remake was really hilarious and a lot of fun. I especially loved Wonka's sarcastic personality in the remake, especially towards the kids.
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Post by Aishiteru » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:26 pm

I liked both Chocolate Factory movies. In the first one I laughed at the Candy Man song, but only because at thet time "Candy Man" often meant drug dealer. I would also like to say that Tim Burton, Johnny Depp, and Danny Elfman (the compser for a lot of Tim Burton films and singing voice of Jack in The Nightmare Before Christmas), are my almighty cinematic trio.

Also about the Stephen King books... I liked the Misery movie. That might just be because the first time i saw it I was with a friend and she hid under her blanket and whimpered when the guy's legs were being crushed while I was sitting there laughing hysterically. Wow, I'm twisted. I probably shouldn't have enjoyed that so much.
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Post by Senshi_of_Vision » Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:19 pm

Misery was okay I did like Annie Bates portrayal but I dunno I read the book first, and that's always a killer of movies for me, I get the image of the character in my way and then if its not portrayed the way I see it I don't like it lol. I'm vain that way lol. She did do a good job though she could pull off the homely nurse who goes around euthanizing people.
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Post by Tiff » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:45 pm

Senshi_of_Vision wrote:Misery was okay I did like Annie Bates portrayal but I dunno I read the book first, and that's always a killer of movies for me, I get the image of the character in my way and then if its not portrayed the way I see it I don't like it lol. I'm vain that way lol. She did do a good job though she could pull off the homely nurse who goes around euthanizing people.
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Post by Senshi_of_Vision » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:20 pm

lol I cant believe I crossed the two names. But yeah her portrayl of the character was the only thing I liked about the movie cause I knew hollywood couldnt show all aspects to Annie's personality. I just wish more stories I read can be better made into movies that follow the authors intentions more. Or if they have to change things about the movies still make the changes interesting enough. I just watched V for Vendetta I loved this movie but I have a feeling if I had read the Graphic Novel first which im buying by the way I would not have liked this movie as much.
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Post by Iced_Cappucino » Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:03 pm

All I wish is that Hollywood would stop remaking Japanese horror films and just give us the movies sub-only.
They are going to remake Battle Royale -_-. That will be a disaster, a classic movie will be shredded to pieces.

And in reply to Tiff's comment earlier, you said that you think characters should be there correct ethnicity in the film adaptions of books but what about Morgan Freeman in The Shawshank redemption? In the book his character was originally white but Freeman was a good actor, probably why they chose him.

One remake I like is Freaky Friday, as much as I loathe Lindsey Lohan, the remake was far funnier and far more entertaining. The ending made sense and Jamie Lee Curtis was great as the child.
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