Government

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:39 am

Lucied wrote:I'm Canadian, and I hate how our government focuses almost solely on the east and never does anything about us in the west.

About Bush, I don't know too much about him but one thing about him that I do dislike is how he bases alot of his arguments on stuff from the bible (ie. gay marriages), he needs to realize that not all Americans are christian.

He's too narrow-minded to. He came from a bible-thumping state, and here in Texas, people think that because you don't practice the same religion you do, you're evil.

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:25 am

Em wrote:Blair has given us permission to protest when Bush comes over here this week/next week how kind.
Forgive me if I have this wrong but does it seen to anyone that Bush is carrying out dadys order's? or finsheing up what his dad stared at any rate

1)Eww! Do you acctually need his permission or was he just trying to be all 'I support what the people believe' or somthing? I'd hate to half to have somebody's permision to protest [however that's how it kinda looks in America right now, or at least heading there].
2) I hate that he's fallowing what his father did just because his father was a hipocrit. Bush Sr. was all against "Ragonomics", Ragons economic plan, he called them "Voo-Doo Econonmics" and he was pretty much right. However, when he got into office he USED THE SAME ECONOMIC PLAN!!!

Lucied wrote:I'm Canadian, and I hate how our government focuses almost solely on the east and never does anything about us in the west.
About Bush, I don't know too much about him but one thing about him that I do dislike is how he bases alot of his arguments on stuff from the bible (ie. gay marriages), he needs to realize that not all Americans are christian.

1)We have a similar problem in USA with focusing on the mid-west, they pretty much get screwed in big disasters and such.
2)I hate when politicle leaders refer to religion in there speaches, etc. If you want to be a Religious Leader become a Preist/Minister/etc., however, if you wanna become a political leader of your nations people THEN you can become a congresperson or president. I know Religion is a big part of peoples lives, but as President you're supposed to be the leader of the nation, not just the Christian Nation.

Em · Post by Em » Wed Nov 12, 2003 7:39 pm

Jed-kun wrote:
Em wrote:Blair has given us permission to protest when Bush comes over here this week/next week how kind.
Forgive me if I have this wrong but does it seen to anyone that Bush is carrying out dadys order's? or finsheing up what his dad stared at any rate
1)Eww! Do you acctually need his permission or was he just trying to be all 'I support what the people believe' or somthing? I'd hate to half to have somebody's permision to protest [however that's how it kinda looks in America right now, or at least heading there].

Off the top of my head it was something if you MUST protest then do so but don't if you don't have too or something like that it, it was how he said it that ircked me alot.

I think the only thing going for us lot at the momment is there's no worries over religon everything eles is going down teh pan but religon is still good * rolls eyes*

Lady of the Light · Post by **Lady of the Light** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:53 pm

I am also Canadian, and I too have some problems with our government.

I greatly dislike how our government never seemed to do much when our provinces where marred by disatsters. Where was the funding when S.A.R.S, Mad Cow, and West Nile hit?

Now, I live in Ontario, so I haven't heard what's happened out west much. But what I have seen is that the government has done nothing to help the meat industry workers when Mad Cow hit. I mean, Jean Chretien went and had a steak. Like that's going to help the U.S raise their ban on Canadian beef...

As for the American Government, I can only say that I don't agree with George Bush on almost all of his policies, but since I don't live in that country, so I should just keep my mouth shut.

FoxFire · Post by **FoxFire** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 3:52 am

I think Bush has been a lousy president on almost every account. I disagree with most of his policies and decisions since he took power, but it's been the gross violation of civil liberties under John Ashcroft, and the unprovoked invasion of Iraq which has propelled me to dislike him as a president the most. I pray to whomever that he is no reelected, or I guess I should say elected for the first time, or reappointed.

I don't care that much for the Democratic party either because I feel they've sold out and don't represent what liberals/progressives are supposed to stand for, but right now they're our only alternative. Of the Democratic candidates I like Dennis Kucinich the best, but everyone says he has no chance. Howard Dean is my second choice and I think he has the best mix of progressiveness and electability. I'll most likely vote for any Democratic candidate as long as it's not Joe Lieberman.

Anthy · Post by **Anthy** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:07 pm

Tiff wrote:He's too narrow-minded to. He came from a bible-thumping state, and here in Texas, people think that because you don't practice the same religion you do, you're evil.

I totally know what you're talking about. Here in Indianer (how "Indiana" is pronounced ^^''), the national state policy is "Shoot a queer pagan for Jesus." Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christians, just the crazy violent ones. ^^

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:28 pm

FoxFire wrote: I pray to whomever that he is no reelected, or I guess I should say elected for the first time, or reappointed... as long as it's not Joe Lieberman.

I so totally agree! They were all pissed that they had to have a damn "re-count", but they didn't even have it, they kept screwin up and people said that 'yeah, I punched in the "chad" for Bush if it wasn't puched in' and other hanous crimes! I just hope that the "trueth" come's out some day [I'm not even gonna get started on how they treated minorities at the poles]. What's wrong with Lieberman??? I didn't think he was to bad, but I havn't heard much from the canditaits, when is the next debate???

Anthy wrote:Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christians, just the crazy violent ones. ^^

Those arn't Christians, those are crazy-ass fanatics who don't have a brain to even share between them. [I'm not Christian, but my mom is, so I REALLY hate those guy's who give it a bad name like that.]

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 4:48 pm

ALL politicians are scum. And the lobbyists make me sick as well. And PLEASE don't get me started on PETA's whacked-out campaigns. We'd be here all day.

FoxFire · Post by **FoxFire** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:35 pm

Jed-kun wrote:What's wrong with Lieberman??? I didn't think he was to bad, but I havn't heard much from the canditaits, when is the next debate???

He's too conservative on many issues, and he was almost as hawkish as Bush on the Iraq invasion. He was one of the main reasons I didn't vote for Gore in 2000 (I voted for Nader if you're wondering, and I don't regret that one bit now).

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:51 pm

Oh, I didn't realize he was so conservative. I didn't like Gore to much until AFTER he gave his consetion speach, I mean, did you see him! He was acctually kinda funny and cool! Where the HELL was that man durring hte election race!? Oh well, hopefully we'll have a better go of things this time round.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:48 am

Anthy wrote: I totally know what you're talking about. Here in Indianer (how "Indiana" is pronounced ^^''), the national state policy is "Shoot a queer pagan for Jesus." Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Christians, just the crazy violent ones. ^^

-_- gotta love all of those open-minded, intelligent people. yep.