School Uniforms

[Tiff]

LMAO!
But anyways, I am sort of for against dress code. I think kids in JH and up should be allowed to wear what they want. Seeing how kids are getting sluttier and sluttier, I think elementary students should be required to wear school uniforms. But I know I wouldn't like it if we had unifoms. I shop at A&F, Hollister, AE, and Aeropostale and I do think some of the clothes at those places are just trashy. But these stores are made for teens you know and that is the age you should start making your own decisions.

That doens't make any sense. The kids in JH and High are the ones getting slutty, so why on earth should the elementary kids have uniforms but not the older ones?

And you think there shouldn't be a dress code, PERIOD? So they should wear what they want? So halters and daisy duke shorts should be worn to class, huh. I can see being against uniforms, but...being against a dress code altogether? That's...nonsensical. As a teacher, I'm pretty appalled to see someone against a dress code completely. You have no idea how distracting clothes can truly be in the classroom.

[SeiUsa]

Hmmm...I remember in elementary school the most distracting thing I could wear would be my sparkly Cinderella T-Shirt that could also glow in the dark....and now it's the sparkly words on the ass? Oy vey. The way kids are today makes me fear for my future children. Hell, it makes me fear to even HAVE children, because I could raise them with good morals, yet somehow they could go downhill by hanging around some other kid whose dumb parents thought it would be "cute" to let them dress and act like baby whores.
Well, anyway, I just realized I didn't give my own opinion on uniforms...well, if you can handle someday wearing the same thing as everyone else on graduation day, why not do the same for the rest of your school years?

[Jusenkyo no Pikachu]

Here's my (naïve, situation-influenced) two cents:

Australia has uniforms for most schools. A lot of the time (at least, in my experience), these consist of T-shirts or shirts with button-up collars, with a pair of shorts (and dresses for ths girls). There is a separate sports uniform. These usually make the student look silly.

Now, there are only a few private schools, known as the GPS Schools (GPS Stands for "Greater Public Schools"). The uniforms at these schools are generally smarter (although I personally don't like the ones at Southport).

The uniform I first wore in Primary School consisted of:

A yellow shirt with the school name printed in green
A pair of grey shorts
A green cap.

The second uniform?

A red button-up shirt with that weird sorta-checkered sorta-plaid criss-cross square pattern (the girls had dresses. They had dresses similar to that--only green--at my first school).
Grey shorts
A choice of school hat and school cap. I wore the hat, my sister wore the cap.
The sport uniform consisted of a solid red shirt, or a white shirt and red skirt for the girls.
The senior concert uniform was a piped collar shirt for the boys, and a similar (though solid front) blouse for the girls with a long red skirt.

As you can guess, I'm not particularly fond of this uniform either. The school got a new uniform the year after I graduated.

My last school uniform was for high school. Now here's a good one:

Blue short-sleeved shirt with breast pocket (white long-sleeved shirt in winter or for concerts). I still use the white shirt for choir concerts.
Grey pants (shorts for Grade 8s, trousers the rest of the time) with a black belt.
A blue striped tie. Seniors had a solid blue tie with two blue stripes and a red-and-gold version of the school logo, while form and school prefects wore a similarly striped tie (only lots more stripes) with the school logo at the bottom). The only adornments--Duke of Edinborough Award Badges, could be placed on the tie.
In winter, we had to wear one or two of the following: A grey jumper with a blue collar (Year 8-10), a suit coat (Year 9-10), a blue jumper (Year 11-12) or a blue blazer (also Year 11-12). School colours (awards for achievements) would be printed on the pocket of the blazer.
The sports uniform consisted of a button up shirt, and light-and-dark blue shorts (this later changed to dark blue shorts of a different material).

Of course, in high school, you weren't allowed to show your undies unless undressing. I never figured that fad out--what is so damn great about your underwear that you'd risk looking daggy in order to show it off?

[#1SailorMoonFan]

That doesn't make any sense. The kids in JH and High are the ones getting slutty, so why on earth should the elementary kids have uniforms but not the older ones?

I think it is all three. But it is starting with the elementary kids. So I was thinking making them wear uniforms would steer them towards the right direction.

And you think there shouldn't be a dress code, PERIOD?

Where did I say that? Was it this?

But I know I wouldn't like it if we had uniforms. I shop at A&F, Hollister, AE, and Aeropostale and I do think some of the clothes at those places are just trashy. But these stores are made for teens you know and that is the age you should start making your own decisions.

If you meant the decisions part, I sort of meant more like be tolerable in school, but dress however you want outside of school. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. ^^;;

[Tiff]

I think it is all three. But it is starting with the elementary kids. So I was thinking making them wear uniforms would steer them towards the right direction.

Where did I say that? Was it this?

If you meant the decisions part, I sort of meant more like be tolerable in school, but dress however you want outside of school. Sorry I didn't make that clearer. ^^;;

1) I agree. Starting in Elementary School is a good thing. Thanks for clarifying ^_^

2) You said it right here:

"But anyways, I am sort of for against dress code. I think kids in JH and up should be allowed to wear what they want."

=P you said you were against a dress code.

3) *Nods* I see what you mean. Thanks again for clarifying.

[Panda]

I think of unifroms as a mixed blessing myself.

When I was six years old I began going to a Catholic School in my home-town of Kansas City, Missouri. At my school they girls were to wear plaid jumpers with a red, white, or blue polo and the boys the same with blue slack pants. (The uniform changes slightly for the older grades). At age eleven (fifth grade) I moved to Houston, Texas to find that my new school (along with the entire distrct) had an unussually strict dress-code.

Solid-colored polo shirts only. No more than 3 buttons. No pockets.
Pants must be solid color black, brown or white. Slacks recomened.
No logos on anything.

This is only a fraction of the code. It's truly ridiculous.

If, for whatever reason, you break the dress code you will be placed in In School Suspecnsion until further notice. This usaully results in a minimum of five days ISS.

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This being said, I think school uniforms should be applied only to do their job. When the occasion is handled incorrectly I don't think it helps a thing. I personally think that a very straightforward uniform would be better than all these exceptions (as in the dress code) but that's just my opinion.

[NameGoesHere]

I believe in a solid dress code, but I don't think uniforms are necessary.

Uniforms can end up costing a lot of money, especially for poor households. What with the horrid costs of supporting a child in every other aspect of life, I see no need to pile on another expense. Instead, I think schools should stick to sensible dress codes.

Shirts that cover the whole torso; no slogans or pictures of anything printed anywhere; shorts and skirts must not be shorter than a couple of inches above the knees; pants that stay up, no ultra loose waists or low-riders; etcetera. I don't believe in banning certain colors, but that's just me.

If kids are caught breaking the dress code more than once, then they should be forced to wear a uniform. A really, really ugly one.

People can dress like sluts and morons after they graduate.

[michiru_haruka]

i wore uniforms in the 6th grade i dont think that it really effects how they do.

[peachvampiress]

NameGoesHere

Uniforms can end up costing a lot of money, especially for poor households. What with the horrid costs of supporting a child in every other aspect of life, I see no need to pile on another expense. Instead, I think schools should stick to sensible dress codes.

0___o How can buying three or four articles of clothing instead of a several new outfits each year cost more? I think most schools with uniforms have a tutition you have to pay. If a family is so poor they can't afford a uniform, they probably can't afford a tutition.

[Sailormars Obsessed fan]

school uniforms arent a bad idea, but they are hardly the most important thing that needs to be changed about american schools.

There are so many things about american schools that need to be fixed, uniforms shouldnt be a high priority (I could go on for hours about how bad american schools are but I dont want to drift from the subject)

[#1SailorMoonFan]

0___o How can buying three or four articles of clothing instead of a several new outfits each year cost more? I think most schools with uniforms have a tuition you have to pay. If a family is so poor they can't afford a uniform, they probably can't afford a tutition.

Very good point. I have officially changed my opinion on dress code. I am all for all grades wearing school uniforms. Mainly because the media is such a big influence and problem with kids. Enforcing uniforms could possibly weaken it. But the music part of it is the main part of it all.

[Tiff]

school uniforms arent a bad idea, but they are hardly the most important thing that needs to be changed about american schools.

There are so many things about american schools that need to be fixed, uniforms shouldnt be a high priority (I could go on for hours about how bad american schools are but I dont want to drift from the subject)

Well, of course. I don't think anyone's arguing that uniforms are the highest priority...as a teacher, I agree that there are definitely far more things in the school system that need to be fixed.

0___o How can buying three or four articles of clothing instead of a several new outfits each year cost more? I think most schools with uniforms have a tutition you have to pay. If a family is so poor they can't afford a uniform, they probably can't afford a tutition.

It depends on the uniform and the school. Some uniforms can only be bought through specialty stores or catalogs, and those are usually the school that charge tuition (aka, private schools). But like, at my school? Our uniform is a white polo or button-down, with navy pants, shorts, or skirts. That's fairly easy to find, and you can find that cheaply at walmart. Also, our school doesn't charge tuition (we're a charter school). A lot of public schools are also going uniform, so you don't have to pay tuition there, either.

So I agree with Peach on the point that if you don't attend a private school and your uniform is as simple as a solid colored shirt and pants, then..it shouldn't be more expensive than usual back to school shopping.

[Sailormars Obsessed fan]

Well, of course. I don't think anyone's arguing that uniforms are the highest priority...as a teacher, I agree that there are definitely far more things in the school system that need to be fixed.

I was going to be a teacher at one point but my life took a different course.

What do you think about SOL's? Personally I think their very eixstance is a disaster.

[NameGoesHere]

0___o How can buying three or four articles of clothing instead of a several new outfits each year cost more? I think most schools with uniforms have a tutition you have to pay. If a family is so poor they can't afford a uniform, they probably can't afford a tutition.

It depends on the uniform and the school. Some uniforms can only be bought through specialty stores or catalogs, and those are usually the school that charge tuition (aka, private schools).

I was thinking of those uniforms that need to be bought through a specialty shop, or school issued uniforms. To me, something doesn't count as a uniform unless it's all made to the same specifications, with all the exact same cuts, colors, and fabrics; like military uniforms. If it's not that, I think of it as a dress code.

[Tiff]

What do you think about SOL's? Personally I think their very eixstance is a disaster.

SOL's? o_O mind elaborating?

I was thinking of those uniforms that need to be bought through a specialty shop, or school issued uniforms. To me, something doesn't count as a uniform unless it's all made to the same specifications, with all the exact same cuts, colors, and fabrics; like military uniforms. If it's not that, I think of it as a dress code.

I figured that's what you meant. It madem ore sense. XD

[unkhato]

Just wondering but why is it so appealing to girls to have their boobs hanging out? I think if we had uniforms, it be pretty cool especially if they were kinda like the ones from SailorMoon except i'm not a big fan of dresses. Ever since I was a kid, I've hated them. As for the thongs, isn't that the same thing as having a wedgie? I don't wear makeup either. I really think that the world has a superficial view of what is beautiful. We should try to let our true inner beauty shine. I'm from Seattle so it's rainy all year long and yet i still see people dressed like skanks even in the winter. And boys should be ashamed of themselves. They think they're so cool acting all "gangsta" or acting "black". And how about modest language? Why all the swear words? Do people use the same mouth to pray to God or kiss their parents?

[Panda]

Well, that was a stupid comment if I ever heard one. (no disrespect intended but... come on... seriously)

Why worry about what other people are wearing? Dresses, thongs, skank shirts... who cares. It's really just another way of dressing. Nothing wrong there.

As for the uniform issue... umm... you didn't really say anyhting about that did you? You just posted in a thread about your disinterets in acting "gangsta" (as you call it.) Way to go!

[Tiff]

Well, that was a stupid comment if I ever heard one. (no disrespect intended but... come on... seriously)

Why worry about what other people are wearing? Dresses, thongs, skank shirts... who cares. It's really just another way of dressing. Nothing wrong there.

As for the uniform issue... umm... you didn't really say anyhting about that did you? You just posted in a thread about your disinterets in acting "gangsta" (as you call it.) Way to go!

ADMIN MODE:

Panda, there's no need to be so disrespectful. Every member is entitled to their opinion, and calling it "stupid" is not tolerated here. Cool it.

Secondly, that is YOUR opinion, and not everyone agrees with it. unkhato was discussing the types of clothes teens wear on a regular basis, and her distaste with them. She is more than entitled to do that, whether you agree or not.

Third, you are not a mod. Therefore, you don't get to reprimand other members and tell them how to post and what they've done wrong.

Read the rules if you haven't already, and please stick to them.

[Panda]

I'm sorry ma'am (I don't say that to suck up, I've just always been taught to address my seniors this way, I apply it to the internet everywhere.) but I get really ticked when I see such closed-mindedness. Please excuse that comment.


On Topic

Anway, If there should be uniforms they should be full-put uniforms. Nothing like polo-shirts and pants. I mean, everyone should wear the same thing (with slight difference between the sexes.)

But for those schools that believe in a dress code: I think it shouldn't go overboard. No spaghetti straps, shorts certain inches above the knee, levels of bagginess appropriate, shirts buttons/tailored to show minimal amount of clevage... I think it would be fine if people would just set ground rules and not rules for every little thing.

[unkhato]

Well excuse me! . I really do think we need uniforms because of the reasons i said before (people are skanky).