In a battle of wits, who would win?

DistantMemory · Post by **DistantMemory** » Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:25 am

Thanks, KNV. I'll check up on the movies again for a memory refreshment.

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:15 pm

By the way Distant Memory, The Batman is from DC Comics, not Marvel Comics.

DistantMemory · Post by **DistantMemory** » Mon Dec 08, 2003 3:53 pm

Oops. ^^; Well, close enough. Now I'll remember for next time there's a Batman topic.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Dec 12, 2003 7:04 pm

Parallax wrote:Sailor Mercury or The Batman? Discuss please.

Err... it depends. For now I'd say Mercury, but is it Super Sailor Mercury, LV. 1 Sailor Mercury, or LV. 2 Sailor Mercury?

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Mon May 10, 2004 2:37 pm

Darksenshi51 wrote:
Parallax wrote:Sailor Mercury or The Batman? Discuss please.
Err... it depends. For now I'd say Mercury, but is it Super Sailor Mercury, LV. 1 Sailor Mercury, or LV. 2 Sailor Mercury?

Both.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Mon May 10, 2004 3:13 pm

Well, it'd depend on the exact setup of the contest. For some reason, when you say "battle of wits," I see Ami sitting there saying, "Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows." And if they were actually battling with lives on the line, in a setting without actual defined rules, I think Batman takes it. But in a strict game, like if they sat down to play chess or reversi, something where it's just sheer computing power, then Sailormercury has the edge.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Mon May 10, 2004 6:06 pm

I woud think that it all depends on what kind of intelligence we're talking about. Again, Batman has a lot of worldly knowledge that Mercury does not seem to possess. She's still quite young and very naive about the world, and her intelligence seems to lie in mathematics and science, and games that involve logic and strategy. Batman has had to match wits with psychopaths like the Riddler, and thus probably has enough intelligence and experience to deal with logic problems and strategy games. Overall, I really see this going to Batman, just because of the sheer amount of wordly knowledge and experience.

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:31 pm

Starscream wrote:I woud think that it all depends on what kind of intelligence we're talking about. Again, Batman has a lot of worldly knowledge that Mercury does not seem to possess. She's still quite young and very naive about the world, and her intelligence seems to lie in mathematics and science, and games that involve logic and strategy. Batman has had to match wits with psychopaths like the Riddler, and thus probably has enough intelligence and experience to deal with logic problems and strategy games. Overall, I really see this going to Batman, just because of the sheer amount of wordly knowledge and experience.

Logical. Flawlessly logical. Are you sure you're not of Vulcan decent?

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:43 pm

Parallax wrote:
Starscream wrote:I woud think that it all depends on what kind of intelligence we're talking about. Again, Batman has a lot of worldly knowledge that Mercury does not seem to possess. She's still quite young and very naive about the world, and her intelligence seems to lie in mathematics and science, and games that involve logic and strategy. Batman has had to match wits with psychopaths like the Riddler, and thus probably has enough intelligence and experience to deal with logic problems and strategy games. Overall, I really see this going to Batman, just because of the sheer amount of wordly knowledge and experience.
Logical. Flawlessly logical. Are you sure you're not of Vulcan decent?

Nope, sorry. That's just the way I see things...most times ^^;

whitewolf05 · Post by **whitewolf05** » Thu May 20, 2004 1:32 pm

Starscream wrote:
Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
Parallax wrote:Pitting Team Rocket (Jessie, James, and Meowth) against either Sailor Mercury or The Batman would be like pitting three Alderaaans against The Death Star.
Just believe in the force....
A lot of good the force did for those Alderaanians

Ya they should have used the shworts (spaceballs the movie). It goes against every thing I believe in but I am going to have to say Batman (sorry Ami) because every thing Sailor Mercury can throw at The Bat he could easily counter. (i mean his ultility belt has every thing you could dream of and some)

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:08 pm

whitewolf05 wrote:Ya they should have used the shworts (spaceballs the movie).

That was the schwartz--it's yiddish for "black" (see also Blazing Saddles), but I think it was picked just because it sounds like "force" and also because it's just a funny word.

It goes against every thing I believe in but I am going to have to say Batman (sorry Ami) because every thing Sailor Mercury can throw at The Bat he could easily counter. (i mean his ultility belt has every thing you could dream of and some)

True, but this isn't a fight we're talking about. I still say that braino-a-braino, Ami has a good shot. A lot of people have said, truthfully enough, that Batman has more life experience, wheras Ami has just book-learning. But the knowledge in books is there for a reason.

But really, it's difficult to get a firm mental grip on the question, since the two of them are really from different universes. Batman deals with genuinely criminally insane people, with almost no friends, certainly no equals or leaders (I'm not counting Justice League), for his own purpose, with nothing but his own hands and mind (this last is a major reason I like him a lot more than Superman or Spider-Man). Sailor Mercury fights aliens, sometimes ones that are downright wacky, as part of a team, using elemental water powers. It's kind of an apples-to-oranges thing.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Thu May 20, 2004 3:15 pm

Sailorasteroid wrote:But really, it's difficult to get a firm mental grip on the question, since the two of them are really from different universes. Batman deals with genuinely criminally insane people, with almost no friends, certainly no equals or leaders (I'm not counting Justice League), for his own purpose, with nothing but his own hands and mind (this last is a major reason I like him a lot more than Superman or Spider-Man). Sailor Mercury fights aliens, sometimes ones that are downright wacky, as part of a team, using elemental water powers. It's kind of an apples-to-oranges thing.

I think age, too, can play a role in who comes out the victor here. Not to knock Ami or anything, but despite her perspicacity and reasoning capabilities, she is still a 14 - 16 year old, and can act like it when she's around friends or other highschool situations. The show or comic does not really give us much insight into how she would behave with someone who is close to her in mental capacity - excluding Berthier and Viluy, who are treated as enemies, rather than friendly adversaries, as I am assuming for this Batman v Mercury "battle".

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Thu May 20, 2004 4:08 pm

Starscream wrote:I think age, too, can play a role in who comes out the victor here. Not to knock Ami or anything, but despite her perspicacity and reasoning capabilities, she is still a 14 - 16 year old, and can act like it when she's around friends or other highschool situations. The show or comic does not really give us much insight into how she would behave with someone who is close to her in mental capacity - excluding Berthier and Viluy, who are treated as enemies, rather than friendly adversaries, as I am assuming for this Batman v Mercury "battle".

The operative word there being "can." One of the complexities of Ami's character is that at some level she wants to live the common life of a teenager, and has to fight her genius girl reputation to do so. On other levels she recognizes her gift and wants to live up to the potentials it provides. There are people at that age with both the desire and the capacity to interact with the world as a fully functioning individual. To some, age is just a number. But this is a form of iconoclasm, so it takes a strong will. It would have been possible to write Ami's character as such, and would have given her greater capacity in the sort of contest we're discussing here. Instead, she is written as more well-rounded, so perhaps the question should be not who would win if they were pitted against each other, but who has the greater arsenal for battle in the theoretical arena.

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:58 pm

All true, but Ami-chan doesn't have acess to one of the greatest crime labs around... The Batcave.

Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:18 pm

....Batman. Duh.

since they're both brilliant strategists

What the heck has Ami done/said that could be considered "brilliant strategy"? I certainly can't think of anything.

And as far as battle goes, what's she going to do? Bubble him to death?

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 3:56 pm

I would say Ami. First she could use her Shabon Spray, then simply use Shine Aqua Illusion and freeze him.

Edit: Sorry, I forgot it was a battle of wits. -_- In that case, I would say Batman would win.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:11 am

Sailorasteroid wrote:Well, it'd depend on the exact setup of the contest. For some reason, when you say "battle of wits," I see Ami sitting there saying, "Because iocane comes from Australia, as everyone knows." And if they were actually battling with lives on the line, in a setting without actual defined rules, I think Batman takes it.

But Mercury, unlike Vizzini, is actually smart. She'd realise that there'd be the chance that both goblets were poisoned. Of course, Batman could fool her and poison neither one...

Now onto the bit where Batman, the Hulk and some rogue Spaniard with superb sword skills take on sixty men armed with Uzis.

Anyway, otherwise, Batman would definitely better her. No two ways about it.

Pi "Never mess with a Sailor Senshi when death is on the line! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha *choke gasp die*" ka

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