WTF?

RoastedTwinkies · Post by **RoastedTwinkies** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 5:36 pm

Ayane wrote:Videos that cover nearly the whole situation: The problem has started by this time.

After being taken to the office and the police's arrival.

Thanks for posting the video! This is the most footage that I've seen from the 20 minute video so far. When I saw this on the news, they only showed a few seconds of the video. The highlights they showed on TV was when she smashed the teacher's apple thing, when she ripped the pictures off the wall, the teacher saying " That is not acceptable. You may not punch me.", etc and finally the end of the video when the police handcuff her. I still can't believe what I was watching. Most of the kids I went to school with weren't that bad. I remember going to gradeschool with a kid with down syndrome, and he acted out a bit, but that was not his fault because he difn't know better because of his disability. But that doesn't seem to be the problem with this case. The girl appears to be completely normal, but lacks self dicipline.

This is why they need to bring back corpral punishment. It's very controversial with a lot of people, which is why it's highly doubtful that they'll bring it back. I really wish they would though, to control brats like that who don't get dicipline at home. With disipline at school, at least the child stands a better chance of turning okay. While normally I am against spanking, I would use it as a last resort of the kid was out of control like that.

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:40 pm

RoastedTwinkies wrote:
But that doesn't seem to be the problem with this case. The girl appears to be completely normal, but lacks self dicipline.

Not entirely true. She may have a sever behavioral disorder. If that is the case, then she NEEDS THE APPROPRIATE HELP IN THE APPROPRIATE CLASSROOM. Sticking children in everyday, run of the mill public classrooms is NOT what these children need. They need controlled environments with specific curricula and properly certified and qualified teachers that KNOW how to specifically deal with children with behavior disorders. But most districts don't want to spend the money or waste their time with the testing and paperwork involved.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:22 am

...And the guy with the gun said "You offended me seven years ago. Do you feel lucky, punk?"

Seven YEARS is an awful long time to hold a grudge.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:45 am

Salem-ites not bewitched by Elizabeth Montgomery statue

The funny thing is, there were no witches in Salem--it was all a way for some girls to get people to ignore the fact that they'd had their fortunes told. Also, why put it there?

Mr Spock, high on pipe-weed

Tiffu: Why the hell did Dibenedetto hold her arms like that? Was it to give the girl a target so the rest of the body could be protected?

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:24 pm

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Tiffu: Why the hell did Dibenedetto hold her arms like that? Was it to give the girl a target so the rest of the body could be protected?

I have no idea what the hell you're asking me. What is Dibenedetto? What part of the video are you talking about? Please be more specific.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Fri Apr 29, 2005 9:34 pm

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote:Salem-ites not bewitched by Elizabeth Montgomery statue

The funny thing is, there were no witches in Salem--it was all a way for some girls to get people to ignore the fact that they'd had their fortunes told. Also, why put it there?

It seems to be a nice way to immortalize some popular TV characters of the prior age. Maybe Nick at Nite is doing it. But there's also one of Mary Tyler Moore in Minneapolis, and one of Ralph Kramden in front of the Port Authority Bus Terminal in New York.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:44 am

Tiff wrote:
Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Tiffu: Why the hell did Dibenedetto hold her arms like that? Was it to give the girl a target so the rest of the body could be protected?
I have no idea what the hell you're asking me. What is Dibenedetto? What part of the video are you talking about? Please be more specific.

Nicole Dibenedetto is the name of the assistant principal in the video (the name is given in the article accompanying it in the links Ayane gave). The event is in the second clip.

Incidentally, I have (as of about 5 minutes ago) done some further reading on the matter which states that the girl had had some previous trouble with the police. Sounds like the mother is in need of some education herself.

ETA: One further question: would the police have been called if the girl was white?

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 8:29 am

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote:ETA: One further question: would the police have been called if the girl was white?

Um, yes. Any incident in a school involving violence or injury pretty much necessitates a call to the police to make sure all the facts are recorded for an eventual lawsuit, and to be able to show, both in court and to the press, that the maximum level of precaution is taken.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 9:52 am

Sorry...let me rephrase that....would the police have handcuffed her if she was white? I'm only asking because black leaders are now seeing it as racist that three white police officers would handcuff a black girl that was sitting calmly at a table (regardless of the scale of the wobbly).

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGB7YRKH48E.html

And now, for something that must have made the people involved feel like total gooses...

Red Alert! Mexican food off the starboard bow!

Ayane · Post by **Ayane** » Sat Apr 30, 2005 10:15 am

She was sitting calmly at the table because she thought it would take the blame off her. Notice that when she hears her name being said, she runs to the door, sees the police, and runs to sit down in a classic "It wasn't me!" move. This was like the third time she had been violent in school, and the police HAD been called before. I don't think color had anything to do with it. I think they knew that the second they turned their back to leave, thinking "Oh, she's calmed down now," she would have started in worse than before because she was mad she nearly got into big trouble. After the amount of time that had gone by and her not calming down in that span, I don't think the cops really had that much of an option. I doubt they had any reason to believe that talking to her would do anything at all.

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:15 am

On a completely unrelated note...

The police ought to be docked for this display of idiocy

Like many young people, I was fascinated by morbid, violent subjects. After I turned in an essay depicting a political assassination from the killer's viewpoint, my creative writing teacher sent me to talk to my guidance counselor. After I assured him that I had no desire to knock off any politicians, he returned me to class.

(the article is about two girls who were arrested for basically being snotty. One is a devout Muslim who wrote an essay that referred to suicide bombing. And there was no warrant either.)

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:12 am

That's not an article, it's an opinion piece by the highly left-of-center Ted Rall. (see tedrall.com and judge for yourself) And I don't think the police acted inappropriately at all. I think anyone who threatens suicide bombing should be thorughly investigated, especially if they are Muslim.

Akarui Kibuno · Post by **Akarui Kibuno** » Fri May 06, 2005 11:51 am

That's not an article, it's an opinion piece by the highly left-of-center Ted Rall. (see tedrall.com and judge for yourself) And I don't think the police acted inappropriately at all. I think anyone who threatens suicide bombing should be thorughly investigated, especially if they are Muslim.

Dear Asteroid, while I do agree with the fact that "someone threatening..." should be investigated, that last comment you made, was, hmm, kinda disturbing. Only because a) the Muslim girl in question wrote an essay that only referred to the bombing and b) ANYONE who really threatens with ANY kind of bombing should be investigated.

Chibisteven · Post by **Chibisteven** » Fri May 06, 2005 3:33 pm

Accidental post. Sorry about that.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:55 pm

Akarui Kibuno wrote:
That's not an article, it's an opinion piece by the highly left-of-center Ted Rall. (see tedrall.com and judge for yourself) And I don't think the police acted inappropriately at all. I think anyone who threatens suicide bombing should be thorughly investigated, especially if they are Muslim.
Dear Asteroid, while I do agree with the fact that "someone threatening..." should be investigated, that last comment you made, was, hmm, kinda disturbing. Only because a) the Muslim girl in question wrote an essay that only referred to the bombing and b) ANYONE who really threatens with ANY kind of bombing should be investigated.

Yeah. I'm totally going to have to agree with Akarui. That was inappropriate and uncalled for. ANYBODY who actually threatens suicide bombing deserves some sort of small look-see, but to add "especially if they are Muslim"....WTF? Come on, dude. Why don't you just jump on the bandwagon, and request that every Muslim be yanked out of the boarding line at the airport for special searches?

Pipestrell · Post by **Pipestrell** » Mon May 09, 2005 7:31 am

Sailorasteroid wrote:I think anyone who threatens suicide bombing should be thorughly investigated, especially if they are Muslim.

At what point did the girl threaten suicide? The essay subject was that suicide was 'against' Islamic law.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Thu May 12, 2005 8:40 pm

WWJSL

When I first saw this article I literally did think WTF. But after reading it I must say that it does seem like an original idea and is pretty clever. Hell, I'd buy one if I had the cash (and felt like spending $18 dollars on a candle).

Jusenkyo no Pikachu · Post by **Jusenkyo no Pikachu** » Sat May 14, 2005 10:32 pm

Video of Brooke Greenberg--the Dick Clark of babies

Only posted in video form because every single news report appears to have disappeared (about a day after it was posted too).

If you do a Google Group search on the name, you'll find two references to a story People ran on her in 2001.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Sun May 15, 2005 11:16 pm

Hugging is teh Evil!!!!!!1111111

Okay, I can understand if students were groping each other while hugging, but come on. I wonder if it's just boyfriends and girlfriends who can't hug, or if it's with friends as well. Either way this gets a 8.5 on the WTF-o-metre.

jupiter23 · Post by **jupiter23** » Mon May 16, 2005 8:29 am

I've never heard of that rule in any of the schools where I live. That just sounds stupid to me. Granted, you are in school to learn, not necessarily to socialize, but there are not many other places for students to socialize at. I wouldn't care if they were simply hugging.