When people take movies too seriously...

jupiter23 · Post by **jupiter23** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:20 pm

http://www.2theadvocate.com/stories/021 ... e001.shtml

...this happens. Just read the article.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:08 pm

Not to drift off the point, but what is up with this?

Unrest arose between a group claiming to practice rituals of Wicca, a neopagan religion, and a Christian group that gathers by the school's flagpole and prays, Reed said.

So, the one group "claims" to practice Wicca, but the other group doesn't "claim" to be Christian? Biased reporting, if you ask me.

Post by **Tiff** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:11 pm

*Sighs and rolls eyes*

And this, ladies and gentlemen...is why I do not take most pagans/wiccans seriously.

Note: I said MOST. Not all. MOST. So dno't give me shit about it.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:35 pm

I feel really bad for real, serious pagans when shit like this happens because it makes them look like idiots just because of the actions of a few bad apples.

Post by **Tiff** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:36 pm

peachvampiress wrote:I'm not pagan, but I feel really bad for real, serious pagans when shit like this happens because it makes them look like idiots just because of the actions of a few bad apples.

Exactly. I know some wiccans/pagans who really take their faith seriously, and then you get some idiot like this who has watched one too many horror films and episodes of "Charmed". Ugh.

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 7:26 pm

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I'm sorry, that was insensitive. *snicker*

Ahh...silly teeniegawths. I'd have said, "If you see the circle, then in seven days, you will become gay." Just because I liked the Gay Porn Spoof of "The Ring" more than the actual movie.

NekoSun518 · Post by **NekoSun518** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 8:53 pm

Jeez oh freaking pete!

People like that really make me mad....because it's hard enough for serious pagans to get people to take them and their religion seriously without stupid stuff like that.

And Sailorasteroid, I concur it probably is biased reporting.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 9:48 pm

0___o I'm not seeing how it's biased. The "wiccans" in this story are most likely saying they're wiccan because it's cool. Whether or not they take the religion seriously is questionable, thus they're 'claiming' to be wiccan, where as the Christian kids didn't do anything questionable (that and when was the last time a teen joined Christianity because it was cool).

Parakisu

I'd have said, "If you see the circle, then in seven days, you will become gay." Just because I liked the Gay Porn Spoof of "The Ring" more than the actual movie.

...Gay porn spoof of The Ring??? I'm almost tempted to see it, just because it sounds so corny. Personally, I'd have said "Look at the pretty circle" and then when they look at it I'd 'put a spell on them' (i.e. take out a bat and fwap them on the head ^_____^)

Post by **Tiff** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:40 pm

peachvampiress wrote:0___o I'm not seeing how it's biased. The "wiccans" in this story are most likely saying they're wiccan because it's cool. Whether or not they take the religion seriously is questionable, thus they're 'claiming' to be wiccan, where as the Christian kids didn't do anything questionable (that and when was the last time a teen joined Christianity because it was cool).

I agree, completely. Drawing a circle on the ground and saying in seven days you'll die if you see it is not something that comes from a serious wiccan/pagan. Therefore, to say that these people claimed they were wiccan/pagan is accurate, not biased. If I said I was catholic, I WOULD just be claiming it, becuase a) there's no real proof that i'm catholic and b) I'm NOT catholic.

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 1:02 am

peachvampiress wrote:0___o I'm not seeing how it's biased. The "wiccans" in this story are most likely saying they're wiccan because it's cool. Whether or not they take the religion seriously is questionable, thus they're 'claiming' to be wiccan, where as the Christian kids didn't do anything questionable (that and when was the last time a teen joined Christianity because it was cool).

Parakisu
I'd have said, "If you see the circle, then in seven days, you will become gay." Just because I liked the Gay Porn Spoof of "The Ring" more than the actual movie.
...Gay porn spoof of The Ring??? I'm almost tempted to see it, just because it sounds so corny. Personally, I'd have said "Look at the pretty circle" and then when they look at it I'd 'put a spell on them' (i.e. take out a bat and fwap them on the head ^_____^)

It's actually one of my favourites. It has a few really sweet lines in it ("Dude, I love you."). It won quite a few awards, but that doesn't say much. The acting is, like most porn movies, quite atrocious. It amuses me, however. ^^

As for the "bias" issue, I don't know. I can see why it could be considered "biased," but I think the reason it was brought up was more as an explanation. There's no real reason for Louisania to have a bias like that. It is, after all, the place with the highest number of "occult practicioners." I think the distinction was made because it's the most likely place to not have bias--It's highly likely that "claiming" is to show that these kids aren't serious pagans, they just like the idea of "cursing their enemies." Hell, if anything, the situation probably went like this:

"Christian Kid": Hey, what are you doing at the flagpole? Are you joining our prayer circle?

"Wiccan Kid": Stop oppressing us with your ways! Stop forcing Christianity on us! See this circle? Have you? IT MEANS YOU'LL DIE IN SEVEN DAYS.

"Christian Kid": Dude....I saw that fucking movie, dipshit. You're a moron. What the fuck?

The "Christian kids" probably just told the principal or whomever that the "Wiccan kids" had vandalized school property, and when giving the details, the "threat" was established.

lunaP · Post by **lunaP** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:54 am

it kinda pisses me off when kids do that. im a witch, and i take my religion seriously. im not uptight or anything, but it does make me shake my head at people who do that kind of stuff. its just lame when people act like that. Whats even more ridiculus is that the kids who hear it, turned around and were talking about death threats. Sounds like a bunch of morons who have way too much time on their hands.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 7:08 am

Um. . . I'm sorry, did I miss something, but the way the article is written, I think the Chrisitan kid was the one who made the threat.

Apparently, a girl who attends Sumner drew a ring on the ground near the school last week and said anyone who saw it had seven days to live, Deputy Michael DePhillips of the Juvenile Division said.

"Someone overheard this conversation among one group of students and told a different student clique that death threats were being made," DePhillips said.

A teenage boy who belongs to the prayer group called several people and told them someone would be shot at the school Wednesday, investigators said.

That could be taken two ways: the teenage boy was reporting a threat he heard, or he was making a threat of his own. I was seeing it exclusively as the latter, and thought that it wasn't a very "Christian" thing to threaten to shoot people.

So, I take it back, it's not biased reporting, it's terrible writing.

On the other hand, if it did occur as I interpreted it, I think threatening a shooting is a lot more likely to be a true threat than a "Ringu" reference.

And one more thing. I know very little about Wicca, but what I've picked up is that it's a nature-worshipping religion often corrupted by people who just want to magic(k) themselves to a better life. But then, what religion *should* such people subscribe to? The thing that irks me about all religions is the way they insist on proponents subjugating themselves to something. God, nature, other people, it's always about someone else in religion. Where's the religion for people who want to be the higher power, not submit to it?

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:00 am

Sailorasteroid wrote:Where's the religion for people who want to be the higher power, not submit to it?

...Atheism?

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:31 pm

:off topic: Starscream, what happened to your stars/post counting thing?

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 10:01 pm

peachvampiress wrote::off topic: Starscream, what happened to your stars/post counting thing?

He's gone into the admin panel and HAXX0RED it. XD

Jumbled Thoughts · Post by **MarioKnight** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:41 pm

Wow, 4 days before someone else noticed the change (without any help =P ). I should start making some visual changes around the site and see if anyone notices anything and give cookies or something to people who do.

And back on topic.... I've got nothing to add really. ^^;;

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 11:48 pm

MarioKnight

Wow, 4 days before someone else noticed the change (without any help =P ). I should start making some visual changes around the site and see if anyone notices anything and give cookies or something to people who do.

And back on topic.... I've got nothing to add really. ^^;;

So do I get something for being a pawn in your little experiment :D Perhaps a Mario Cookie that makes be breath fire, or turns into a Yoshi monster?

:ends of topic for real now:

Slrjoecool · Post by **Slrjoecool** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:07 am

MarioKnight wrote:Wow, 4 days before someone else noticed the change (without any help =P ). I should start making some visual changes around the site and see if anyone notices anything and give cookies or something to people who do.

And back on topic.... I've got nothing to add really. ^^;;

Actually, I noticed the day it happened, and I was gonna ask Tiff about it, but she disappeared on me from AIM... ^^;;;

Em · Post by Em » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:27 am

From reading that it doesn't really say what group the girl was part of just states that it was a"pagan" group and a "christain" group. Anyway it sound very stuiped taking a moive plot that far. But then again there are people like that .

jupiter23 · Post by **jupiter23** » Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:45 am

ParaKiss_Groupie wrote: As for the "bias" issue, I don't know. I can see why it could be considered "biased," but I think the reason it was brought up was more as an explanation. There's no real reason for Louisania to have a bias like that. It is, after all, the place with the highest number of "occult practicioners." I think the distinction was made because it's the most likely place to not have bias--It's highly likely that "claiming" is to show that these kids aren't serious pagans, they just like the idea of "cursing their enemies." Hell, if anything, the situation probably went like this:

"Christian Kid": Hey, what are you doing at the flagpole? Are you joining our prayer circle?

"Wiccan Kid": Stop oppressing us with your ways! Stop forcing Christianity on us! See this circle? Have you? IT MEANS YOU'LL DIE IN SEVEN DAYS.

"Christian Kid": Dude....I saw that fucking movie, dipshit. You're a moron. What the fuck?

The "Christian kids" probably just told the principal or whomever that the "Wiccan kids" had vandalized school property, and when giving the details, the "threat" was established.

Actually, you'd be quite surprised. I am a Wiccan, and the tolerance for other religions in Louisiana schools is not that high. Kids at the high school level can be huge asses to anyone who is different from them in any way. And most commonly, these kids claim to be Christian. I can tell you stories, because I have lived and went to school in Louisiana my entire life. The only place it gets better is on the college level, and that is only because you don't really have to even associate with people you don't like. That, and most of the people who gave you problems in school are not attending your college, or not going to college at all.

And what you said about the "Christian kids" turning it into something, I had told my boyfriend about this story the other day, and he and I pretty much guessed the same thing. One of the "Wiccan Kids" was probably making a joke or something to friends, and one of the "Christian kids" overheard and turned it into something that led to the situation getting out of hand.