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Post by C.h.a.r.m. » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:05 pm

Akarui Kibuno wrote:Oh, I see this thread hasn't died. Me's happy, it didn't turn into what we could have thought it would! Yayy!

With that said, it's been quite a long time since I posted that thread, and things have changed for me.

Right now, I can't see an adult movie without being extremely disturbed. I sometimes cry. I don't know what exactly happened: one day, I was on the comp, Boyfriend put one on, and I cried, and I couldn't look at one ever since.

I didn't decide to hate those movies... I didn't decide not to look at "those kind of pics" or anything like that. Not that I looked at magazines from the beginning cause most of what I had seen so far was very very disgusting, yuck.

The thing is, since I am not morally against it and my boyfriend sometimes would watch it (though it's funny cause he watches it as he'd watch the news XD ... aka, it doesn't impress him) I thought I'd "try" again. Aka, little by little, I'd either have a quick glance at the screen or something like that.

It still "isn't working". I'm not forcing myself at all, but it "feels weird" in a way: I used to enjoy it when it was decent, now I can't deal with it at all, it physically makes me sick.

o.o ... I really wonder what happened back then, lol.
It's weird to see something so big enter something so little. :shock:

Those poor women. :cry:

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Post by Tiff » Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:59 pm

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It's weird to see something so big enter something so little. :shock:

Those poor women. :cry:
...First off, the vagina is designed for that sort of thing. (And please, nobody needs to respond with immature "ewwws". It's strictly biology). Let's remember as well that most porn stars have had a LOT of sex, and are therefore more than equipped to handle that sort of thing.

Secondly..poor women? wtf? They CHOSE to have a career with porn, most of them. And a lot of the popular ones make good money doing it. They aren't victims. These are adults with free will.

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Post by Panda » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:31 pm

I heard it streatches the more you have sex to so I doubt they really mind it all that much.


I don't see how porn is so looked down upon sometimes. I understand underaged porn being bad (and illegal) but people just seem to have so many misconceptions about normal porn. I mean, damn, who cares. As long as you aren't a chronic masturbator or your trying to make your kids watch it than I don't see what the problem is...

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Post by Tiff » Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:37 pm

Panda wrote:I heard it streatches the more you have sex to so I doubt they really mind it all that much.


I don't see how porn is so looked down upon sometimes. I understand underaged porn being bad (and illegal) but people just seem to have so many misconceptions about normal porn. I mean, damn, who cares. As long as you aren't a chronic masturbator or your trying to make your kids watch it than I don't see what the problem is...
That was exactly my point.

And yes..I don't understand, either. These people do this willingly. They choose to. I don't know why people treat it as something evil.

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Post by yamichan2 » Fri Dec 08, 2006 3:54 am

Hello! thought I would revieve this topic and give my answers to the questions.
1) I don't have a problem with porn, though I think it should only be veiwed my older people and should only be made by adults. I have to admit I haven't really whatched anything that could be considered porn that wasn't animated. I have read rather detailed fanfics in the past, and I continue to do so (however unlike Tiff I prefer the male variety of stories, though once again, I have never seen real people doing this, because I haven't really wanted to)
Now as I say that I would like to say that some of the animation I have seen is occationally rather disturbing, but that is me, and some of it I have liked and found to be rather sweet.
2) I don't have a problem with sex. I am a virgin, and I fully intend to keep my pants on unless I really do have a comitted long term relationship. I don't want one night stands and I don't want do do something so personal with someone I hardly know.
3) For one, I think that if you haven't at least started puberty then you should not be having sex. But the point of having the maturity to handle it and the consequensces comes at different ages to everyone. For most I think that comes at about 18, but some people might reach it earlier or later, depending on them.
I also think that the sheer interest in others comes at different ages. I had a crush in the seventh grade. After he moved I did not really feel attracted to anyone again untill I was in 11th. But since then I have had those feelings. That crush aside I didn't feel that much of a need to find someone that I wanted to do anything with. So I didn't. But others may not be in that situation. They might have those feeling sooner or later.
So to make it more brief, it really is dependent on the person and their current maturity level.
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Post by Rainbow » Wed Dec 20, 2006 6:50 pm

1) Not really, although it may be because I don't ever remember being sexually stimulated by anyone or anything. That and the closest thing to porn I've seen is Puni Puni Poemi. I suppose lesbian erotic literature is okay, though, I have a book of that. I don't think I should judge other people for reading/watching it though, people have all different reasons for doing things and just because someone watches a porno movie doesn't mean they're going to automatically run out and rape someone. There's many other factors involved in that.

However, I've heard it said that it's sexist and demeaning to women. But what about animated porn? No real people are in that. And what about male porn stars? Is it demeaning to men too, or just women? What if a woman watches it? I have heard that it portrays women as objects to be consumed. I'm not sure about this, because I haven't seen any real porn and I'm scared to. I'm not sure if it is if someone absolutely has complete consent in it, though. Or are they selling themselves?

2) For other people, if they're happy with it, then fine. But for me, I can't imagine myself having sex, I'm not even sure I WANT to. At least, the idea of another person touching my genitals scares me. I guess I'm scared of it myself, especially since I don't want to be pregnant. Although if I did, so far as I know right now, I would be likely to end up a lesbian since the idea of having sex with a man scares me a lot more, not to mention male/female sex scenes in fanfics/books disturb me and lesbian ones don't. I just can't imagine enjoying it with a guy, although I don't know yet because I can't imagine enjoying it with anyone. I suppose the phrase "asexual, possibly slightly lesbian" would characterize me at this stage of my development.

3) More than age (some adults are never that mature), I'd say that if you're going to have sex, you need to be prepared to be a parent, unless it's gay sex, in which case I'm not too sure about. I suppose as a sociologist, I don't want to judge other cultures by American standards, so it's hard for me to take a side on this.
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Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:41 pm

Tiff wrote:
Panda wrote:I heard it streatches the more you have sex to so I doubt they really mind it all that much.


I don't see how porn is so looked down upon sometimes. I understand underaged porn being bad (and illegal) but people just seem to have so many misconceptions about normal porn. I mean, damn, who cares. As long as you aren't a chronic masturbator or your trying to make your kids watch it than I don't see what the problem is...
That was exactly my point.

And yes..I don't understand, either. These people do this willingly. They choose to. I don't know why people treat it as something evil.
Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
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Post by Tiff » Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:32 pm

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
And?

So does "Leave it to Beaver".

Let's petition Nick at Nite to drop that, too. Damn sexist television shows.

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Tiff wrote:
Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
And?

So does "Leave it to Beaver".

Let's petition Nick at Nite to drop that, too. Damn sexist television shows.
you made me think of Leave it to Beaver and porn at the same time.

The horror!!!
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Post by yamichan2 » Tue Feb 20, 2007 3:24 pm

Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote:
Tiff wrote:
Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
And?

So does "Leave it to Beaver".

Let's petition Nick at Nite to drop that, too. Damn sexist television shows.
you made me think of Leave it to Beaver and porn at the same time.

The horror!!!
That made me laugh ^_^

I think some people go overboard on there reasonings. Not everyone who sees porn is going to veiw it the same way. Also many people don't get addicted to it and don't go overboard. Those few who do are just overly publicised.
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Post by AnimatedEvey12 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 12:52 am

Akarui Kibuno wrote:
1) What do you think of pornography ?
Honestly, I haven't watched any. But I think it can be okay-the key is moderation and that it's all dramatized. I know when I went to Amsterdam two years ago I only saw the outside of Porn theaters and I didn't mind, it wasn't EVIL like some people will say.

2) What do you think about sex in general ?
It's good for you. Once again the key is moderation. I am still a virgin and I'm waiting for the right guy to enjoy it with. It's a natural part of life we were all made through it and we will all reproduce with it. It's what we're supposed to do, it's the circle of life (hehe, Lion King reference). I also agree with what Tiff has said-if you don't want kids at the moment you want to have sex USE FREAKING BIRTH CONTROL! Trust me children...you don't want to be like my uncle.

3) Do you think sex is for all ages ?
No. I don't agree with a 10-14 year old doing it because they've possibly just started puberty and their bodies are not ready for sex. If a 12 year old thinks they're in love, it's probably just an infatuation like some others have stated. In Illinois the AOC is 17. I think by around 18 you've been educated well enough (hopefully) about pregnancy and STDs and all that.
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Post by wink568 » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:25 pm

I wanted to put in my two-cents. I wish I was a member of this forum when the thread first started, because I would have been significantly younger, and my opinions would have been different.

1. Porn: Well, it's damn expensive. I won't go out and buy it, and I'm too chicken to try and download it only to intercept a virus and have porn sent to all my friends. I do enjoy it, especially scenes with two women, whether it's read of viewed. I noticed this is a common trend, and I really wonder what it is. I do have my theory, but I don't know if it's too much to reveal, so I'll keep it to myself. My boyfriend doesn't like it, which is probably why I've viewed it less as of recently.

2. Sex: It's good for you, as long as you're safe about it. Heck, it's known to cure headaches (there goes the old "I have a headache excuse, eh?). When I was younger, I really had a strong disrespect towards promiscuity, though that has changed as I've gotten older. I still think that some people can be just plain irresponsible about sex. And cheating is never okay in my book. I personally need a emotional tie to my partner, and would never go for a one night stand.

3. Age: I understand that there is a certain curiosity about the body, at practically any age. But when I was 12, I would have never even dreamed of having sex. I knew what it was, but in my mind, it was something like the soap operas, or cocktail parties (really bad comparison, but humor me) in that it was strictly something adults did that didn't really appeal to me. I just can't fathom a 12 year old being interested in it. It scares me to think that as I get older, the younger generations are so much different than I was when I was that age. When I was 14, I had one friend that was engaging in sexual behaviors, just one. We thought she was wrong for it. I still think 14 year olds shouldn't be. I'd say 16 or 17 is where you'd draw the line, but that still seems a little young. I mean, I know that these kids know the risks, but they get that invincible mentality (reckless driving, partying, etc.) what's to say that won't apply to sex? It's a tough call. The body is ready, but does that mean the individual is? It's just a really tough call. 14 and under is a definite no way in my opinion, but beyond that, I'm really unsure.

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Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:30 am

Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote:
Tiff wrote:
Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
And?

So does "Leave it to Beaver".

Let's petition Nick at Nite to drop that, too. Damn sexist television shows.
you made me think of Leave it to Beaver and porn at the same time.

The horror!!!
I think this has waited long enough:

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Post by Sailormars Obsessed fan » Sat Oct 04, 2008 9:16 am

Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote:
Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote:
Tiff wrote:
Jusenkyo no Pikachu wrote: Because it usually depicts sex outside of marriage, and the man is usually seen as the more powerful one, while the woman can be shown (and generally is in older porn titles) as being nothing other than receptive and incredibly weak-willed.
And?

So does "Leave it to Beaver".

Let's petition Nick at Nite to drop that, too. Damn sexist television shows.
you made me think of Leave it to Beaver and porn at the same time.

The horror!!!
I think this has waited long enough:

"Ward, don't you think you're being a little too hard on the Beaver?"
Huh Huh You said "Hard on"
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Post by Iced_Cappucino » Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:02 pm

And yet another late comer is to add their two cents:

1. Porn: It's a business. Its job is to make money and that's what it does. I used to think it was gross as a kid but then every kid does. As I've grown older I've come to realise and accept that porn is pretty much harmless so long as it's legal.

2. Sex: My personal choice is to avoid it, maybe not forever but it just doesn't interest me at the moment. I do however believe that it should be an act of love between two people who care for each other very much rather than a cheap thrill or one night stand.

3. Age: Nobody under the age of 16 should have sex. I believe that at young ages, children and young teens are far too irresponsible to take that step. I also think children should enjoy their innocence and focus on their futures. Getting involved sexually at a young age and probably becoming pregnant or fathering a child means the chance of kids enjoying their childish freedom is slim. I don't think any kid should have that taken fom them.
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Post by Tiff » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:12 pm

Iced_Cappucino wrote: I do however believe that it should be an act of love between two people who care for each other very much rather than a cheap thrill or one night stand.
Just out of curiosity...what's wrong with an act of passion or a one night stand between two consenting adults? If a woman or a man is on a date, there shouldn't be a reason for them to feel ashamed if they have a physical attraction and act on it, so long as they do it safely and responsibly.

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Post by Iced_Cappucino » Sat Oct 04, 2008 2:28 pm

If a woman or a man is on a date, there shouldn't be a reason for them to feel ashamed if they have a physical attraction and act on it, so long as they do it safely and responsibly.
I agree, there's nothing wrong with that. It's hard to explain what I mean clearly. Let's say someone goes around being promiscuous just because they feel like it, I don't think there's any point in having sex with someone you feel no emotional connection/physical attraction to.

I'm not attacking people who do this, everyone is free to live their lives how they like, I was just offering my point of view.
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Post by Aishiteru » Sat Oct 04, 2008 8:49 pm

1. Porn...I of course haven't watched any (being that I'm only 15), but I don't think it's EVIL. I don't think it's safe to download from the internet and watch it like that if you have children using your computer though. (my poppi does, and autocomplete often brings up his pages, and when you accidently click one, things you REALLY don't want to see come up.) I also think it would be wrong to watch it if your spouse doesn't want you to (because it makes them feel that they're not enough for you, or something like that). But if couples watch it together, or are ok with eachother watching it, or singles watch it, I have absolutely no problem with that whatsoever (unless it's just sickening...like children or some other disgusting form...then I think that person should be permanently incarcarated and they need serious and permanent psychiatric help.)

2. sex...I am a virgin, naturally. I understand that it is a part of life though, and a wonderful part if done in the right way. I personally am saving it for after I'm married, but I understand that most people don't. I want only one partner, and I want a VERY strong emotional connection to that partner, but I have no problem with other people doing what they feel is right for them (as long as they don't feel the inexplicable need to describe it to me, honestly, I really don't want to hear about it, and it's not something I would ever talk about to anyone but my husband, and possibly my doctor)

3. Age: umm, honestly it depends on your culture and your partner. For an American, I think it shoud be saved for until you are out of high school, but I wouldn't be shocked if someone 16 or over did it. I only have a real problem if a 16 year old does it with someone 18 or older. That is called statuatory rape. I honestly have a problem with a 17 year old having an 18 year old for a partner as well, simply because it is illegal. Personaly, I'm waiting until I'm out of college to get married, and therefore to have sex.
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Post by Tiff » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:37 am

Aishiteru wrote: I only have a real problem if a 16 year old does it with someone 18 or older. That is called statuatory rape. I honestly have a problem with a 17 year old having an 18 year old for a partner as well, simply because it is illegal. Personaly, I'm waiting until I'm out of college to get married, and therefore to have sex.
Only in some states. A lot of states' ages of consent are 16 and up. So...no, it's not statutory rape unless they fall under that particular state's age of consent.

You might want to educate yourself more on this subject. http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm As you can see, a lot of states start their age of consent around 16/17..hell, even 15.

I mean, honestly...if an 18 year old and a 16 year old are both in high school and dating, there's absolutely nothing dirty or wrong about them having safe, protected sex. It's not as though we're talking about a 60 year old man preying on 16 year old girls, here. A 16 year old and an 18 year old are relatively similar in terms of maturity.

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Post by Sailormars Obsessed fan » Sun Oct 05, 2008 9:50 am

Tiff wrote:
Aishiteru wrote: I only have a real problem if a 16 year old does it with someone 18 or older. That is called statuatory rape. I honestly have a problem with a 17 year old having an 18 year old for a partner as well, simply because it is illegal. Personaly, I'm waiting until I'm out of college to get married, and therefore to have sex.
Only in some states. A lot of states' ages of consent are 16 and up. So...no, it's not statutory rape unless they fall under that particular state's age of consent.

You might want to educate yourself more on this subject. http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm As you can see, a lot of states start their age of consent around 16/17..hell, even 15.

I mean, honestly...if an 18 year old and a 16 year old are both in high school and dating, there's absolutely nothing dirty or wrong about them having safe, protected sex. It's not as though we're talking about a 60 year old man preying on 16 year old girls, here. A 16 year old and an 18 year old are relatively similar in terms of maturity.
I think everyone would answer this question different.

I mean for me I totally agree with you Tiff but I know there are a lot of people who fully believe sex without marriage is an evil thing reguardless of if love is there or not and they would write several paragraphs explaining why.

Its pretty much just what you believe for yourself, unfortunatly people seem obsessed with making everyone else believe what they do. Its really held us back as a society.
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