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Post by Starscream » Thu Jun 08, 2006 7:53 pm

Um, Bob, maybe you should read the post a bit closer:
It was very brief, he at first would only touch my back and sometimes my legs.

As time went on he became more serious about his actions. Holding me in his lap and stroking my hair, sliding his hands up and down my legs softly.
I'm sorry, but anyone who does that to any child - offspring or not - has SERIOUS issues. Hugging is one thing, but caressing an 8-year-old girl's legs? That's NOT normal fatherly behavior, and neither is "playful" spanking to an 11-year-old. These actions scream as those of a paedophile.
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Post by #1SailorMoonFan » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:16 pm

It's not always that easy. There are a lot of physical and psychological factors to be taken into account in situations of alleged molestation and rape, and sometimes just saying "no" is either not easy, not possible, or ineffective.
Exactly, a lot of the time if it is a young child, they think this stuff is OK and enjoy it. That's one of the reasons they end up blaming themselves later in life.

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Post by AnimeGuru0 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:53 pm

While I see your point about saying no, I disagree with your other points.

Again, to reiterate, I'm not saying that this guy was right or wrong. Hell, for all I know, he was a pedophile and a bad person. But at the same time, for all I know he could have been innocent. (although the spanking thing does raise red flags)

However, like I said, in context maybe things weren't so bad.

Hell, I have a 7 year old cousin who, whenever she comes over, immediately grabs a book, plants herself in my lap and wants me to read her a story. Just because of postioning, yes, my hand does touch her leg and sometimes I'll pat her on the leg or rub it depending on context (like if something funny happens in the story to make her laugh). Yes, I'm touching her leg, but I'm by no means "carressing" it. (also to note, she's always wearing jeans, touching a 7 year old's leg when she's wearing jeans as opposed to say, a skirt, are two totally different concepts). She also likes to snuggle when she watches a movie. I've been known to play with her hair as she's watching the movie (particularly if she starts nodding off). But I'll be damned if anyone calls me a pedophile, or tells me what I'm doing is inappropriate. If she wants to be a cute affectionate little 6/7 year old, that's fine.

I just have a serious problem with society somewhat dictating nowadays that we can't touch children, show them that we love them, and be affectionate with them. From what I've seen, lack of affection to a child can really eff them up in adulthood.

I understand as adults we need to be careful handling children. Obviously it's stupid to run up to a 5 year old you've just met and hug them and kiss them and put them on your lap. That's idiotic and could get you in trouble (no matter how innocent your intentions might be). What I have a problem with is (hypothetically) Neighbor F who lives down the street stops by my house, sees my 7 year old cousin snuggled up next to me watching a movie, and then going around telling everyone that I'm a pedophile. That's what I have a problem with. While yeah, she can go around and say "That little girl was in his lap, he had his hand on her leg, and he was playing with her hair" and yeah it'll sound bad the way she's putting it, but in context (They're cousins, they see each other every weekend, it's almost her bed time and she's nodding off, it's in the very public living room, and there are many other people around) makes it a totally different story.

That was the point I was trying to make originally. Forgive me if I didn't elaborate enough.

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Post by Panda » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:07 pm

Trust me, you had to be there. I knew this man since I was a small child, the way his face looks, his expressions, is what tells you.

Also, he was very strict with his son and also later he became an alcoholic so I didn't ever say anything about it once I realized what he was doing because quite frankly he scared the crap out of me.

When I say caressing, I mean like... rubbing my thighs. When a child sits on your lap for you to read them a story and your hand touches their thigh it's usually the outer part. He was going inward, towards other things. It wasn't quite platonic.


I've had quite a bit of time to think about this and I don't talk about it with anyone (I never told anyone :oops: ) so feel free to ask questions if you want detail.

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Post by AnimeGuru0 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:43 pm

Ah see, then yeah I understand your point.

Again with context it paints a clearer picture. An alchoholic guy who is doing stuff like that paints a VERY different picture. I'm glad that he's no longer a part of your life.

I hope you didn't feel like I was belittleing you or discrediting you in any way. I wasn't trying that, moreso trying to voice my opinion on a much broader subject. I'm sorry if my message came out wrong ^^

And you don't need to feel embarressed. Cause we're all here to help each other out and support one another ^^ Yay 4 unity. w00t.

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Post by Panda » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:52 pm

Off Topic:

I would really like to say that this is one forum that I feel very comfortable in. I recently got kicked off of another forum around January after some unpleasant and mostly unnecassary experiences. Thanks SMU Forum!

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Don't worry about it. I'm horrible at wording improtant things sometimes. It truly is my greatest flaw.

Even though what happened doesn't bother me (as much as it probably should) I get rather embarassed because I'm usually the type of person that is very straight foreward and doesn't let this kind of thing happen.

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Post by Sailormars Obsessed fan » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:23 pm

I have no personal experiences that match anything said here, but I do know a guy who was raped in high school with a broom handle.

He has for the most part mentally recovered from it but if the situation is right he will have minor panic attacks. To this day he wont go into a public bathroom if anyone else is there, and he always locks the door to the ones he uses in peoples houses (which I do too)

He wont talk about it other then to simply tell me it happened and that hes ok. I really dont know if hes being honest here or not, but prying into it seems like a bad idea.
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