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Clearing up some stereotypes

Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:23 am

I don't know why I'm post-happy right now...

Anyway, in Australia...

We do not have kangaroos in our backyards. They're already enough of an endangered species as it is.

We do not ride emus to school either. Our bike racks are for bikes.

Very few people say "maaaaaaaaaaaaaate". And even then, they're only joking.

We do not allow nudity on all our beaches. Even then, it's still cordoned off so people who don't want to see it don't have to.

Many Aussies are now embarrassed by the word "G'day". And it means "hello" only.

XXXX is not "Australian for Beer".

Not all city-dwellers live in Sydney. I myself have never been there for more than a few hours at a time. (FYI: I live in Brisbane, which is about 600 miles north)

Very few people speak like Paul Hogan. For that matter, very few people carry large knives. Also, greeting others from inside taxis doesn't even happen when we travel to America. It did make for a funny movie though. If you want to hear a real Australian speak, listen to Nicole Kidman or Hugo Weaving speaking in public.

We are not uncouth.

We also do not necessarily wear Akubra hats. The last time I actually saw someone wear a ridiculously wide hat, he was parodying a political figure.

We regard John Howard as a complete fucking idiot who has no clue how to run the country. He's almost, but not quite, as bad as Ms "Please Explain", aka the unlamented Pauline Hanson.

We do not say "seppo/septic (tank)" whenever we want to refer to an American. I know that's where the place is headed, but I didn't hear the word myself until last year.

I'm sure Strawbaby can pick up any I've missed here, but I think I've nailed most of them. What stereotypes about your home annoy you?
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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:03 pm

I'm going to steal the Molson Canadian beer speech because it pretty much covers everything.

I'm not a lumberjack, or a furtrader,
and I don't live in an igloo, eat blubber, or own a dogsled,
and I don't know Jimmy, Sally, or Susie from Canada,
although I'm sure they're really really nice.

I have a Prime Minister, not a President.
I speak English and French, not American,
and I pronounce it about, not aboot
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack;
I believe in peacekeeping, not policing;
and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal

a tuque is a hat,
a chesterfield is a couch,
and it is pronounced zed, not zee, zed!

Canada is the second largest land-mass,
the first nation of hockey,
and the best part of North America!

MY NAME IS JOE, AND I AM CANADIAN!

On another note, this reminds me that Molson Canadian recently decided to join with Coors Light, to be now known as Molson Coors. Joining with an American Company just to make more money.. how fucking hypocritical. That really, really pisses me off. What happened to our heritage?

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Post by Tempest » Mon Aug 16, 2004 1:30 pm

I'm assuming that regional stereotypes count too?

Southern Stereotypes -

01) We are all not stupid hicks.
02) We all aren't poor trash.
03) We do not screw our reletives.
04) We have, and use, indoor toilets.
05) Not all southerns are racists.
06) We are not all trailer trash and sluts.
07) Not everyone here are alcoholics.
08) Roadkill is just that. Roadkill. Not Sunday vittles.

American Stereotypes -
01) We all aren't greedy capitalists.
02) Not all Americans are war-mongors.
03) Not everyone in America are biggots.
04) Not everyone is fat and lazy.
05) Not everyone is full of themselves.
06) Because someone is a proud American, it doesn't mean they hate, or are intolerent of, other countires and cultures.


More to come as I think of them. Feel free to add to the list.
And really, why shouldn't we be afraid? In case you haven't heard, life is terminal. Cigarettes will kill you. So will your cellphone. Your car is a deadly weapon and alcohol is a quiet killer. Don't lick the lead-based paint on the walls. Don't lick the back of a postage stamp and certainly don't lick any strangers! That will bring you down quickly indeed. Don't drink the water but don't drink less than eight glasses a day. Your enviroment is toxic, your natural resources are dwindling, your days are numbered, but what ever you do, don't panic! The stress, don't you know, will kill you.
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Post by Tiff » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:48 pm

Tempest wrote: Southern Stereotypes - Because you hear a southern accent, do not assume the following:

01) We are all not stupid hicks.
02) We all aren't poor trash.
03) We do not screw our reletives.
04) We have, and use, indoor toilets.
05) Not all southerns are racists.
06) We are not all trailer trash and sluts.
07) Not everyone here are alcoholics.
08) Roadkill is just that. Roadkill. Not Sunday vittles.
THANK YOU, TEMPEST! *LOVES YOU FOREVER*

Texas:

1) I do not own a cowboy/cowgirl hat, nor am I in any way a cowgirl.
2) I am not "used to the heat". I hate it. Summer can die.
3) I HAVE seen snow, and I DO know what it is, as do most of the people here. It DOES snow/ice here, people.
4) I do not own any cows, horses, pigs, chickens, etc.

Teachers/Teaching:

1) We do NOT consult the "Teacher's Manual" for "all of the answers." This angers me more than anything. Teachers manuals aren't even LIKE that, especially in the grades I teach (Pre-k, Kindergarten). We have brains, and we do more than sit around and pass out worksheets.
2) Pre-k and Kindergarten are NOT babysitting. We TEACH skills, anda ctual material.
3) I do not dress in little knit apple sweaters, ugly shoes, and a too-large skirt. Some of us dress quite nicely.
4) I have a social life. We do drink margaritas, go out during the weekends, and have boyfriends or fiancees. We drive nice cars and not 25-year old clunkers, and we have hobbies like everyone else. We are not namless, robotic drones.

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Post by Sailorasteroid » Mon Aug 16, 2004 4:55 pm

I'll do New York.

We do not all talk like cabbies. Not even the cabbies.
We do not automatically think we're better than other cities.
We will not "just as soon step on your face as look at you."
If you stay out of the slums at night, you are no more likely to be a crime victim than in any other major city.
You can drive in New York, you just have to pay attention.
We may not be the "melting pot" we once were, but we have plenty of diversity, and we generally get along.
Not all Long Islanders and Manhattanites are rich. Not all Brooklynites/Staten Islanders/New Jerseyites are poor.
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Post by Em » Mon Aug 16, 2004 5:48 pm

England for me then

1: We don;t ALL have butlers

2: Jeeves is a name I've never hread over here

3: London is not the only city there's Manchester, Liverpool, Brighton,Southampton and Portsmouth to name a few

4: We have sunshine it's not all rain ( and as soon as it stops rainning I'll prove it XD)

5: Stonhenge is NOT near London

6: We don't all sound stuck up as if we talk like people tio in Shakespere moives

7: Some also don't like Shakespere

8: We can drive


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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:07 pm

Tiff wrote:



3) I do not dress in little knit apple sweaters, ugly shoes, and a too-large skirt. Some of us dress quite nicely.
I would so love to see you dressed up like this, Tiff-sama. :twisted: Another thing to add to the Southern stereotypes, we all don't say "y'all" all the time.
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Post by Tiff » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:10 pm

Cardcaptor Takato wrote:
Tiff wrote:
3) I do not dress in little knit apple sweaters, ugly shoes, and a too-large skirt. Some of us dress quite nicely.
I would so love to see you dressed up like this, Tiff-sama. :twisted: Another thing to add to the Southern stereotypes, we all don't say "y'all" all the time.
XD;; No thanks.

...And I, do ^^;; that IS one thing I'll attest to. I say "Ya'll" constantly. I also say "fixin to."

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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:15 pm

For grandmothers: Not all grandmothers are picky, snobby, and self-centered.
"If we can''t comprehend the plan at hand, how could a higher plan make any more sense? I'd say you can only be a martyr if you know what you are dying for, and choose it"-Elphaba

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Post by Sailorasteroid » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:22 pm

Tiff wrote:...And I, do ^^;; that IS one thing I'll attest to. I say "Ya'll" constantly. I also say "fixin to."
And you spell it as I've seen it in the South, too. Exactly what letters between the "a" and the "ll" is the apostrophe standing in for?
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The Croonerism Spate (explanations upon request)
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Post by Tempest » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:26 pm

Sailorasteroid wrote:
Tiff wrote:...And I, do ^^;; that IS one thing I'll attest to. I say "Ya'll" constantly. I also say "fixin to."
And you spell it as I've seen it in the South, too. Exactly what letters between the "a" and the "ll" is the apostrophe standing in for?
Y'all/Ya'll = You all
XD that's my favorite word!
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Post by Sailorasteroid » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:30 pm

But that's how they spell it in the South:Ya'll, instead of Y'all.
Things I think Are Funny Early in the Morning: If Batman were a Smurf: "Quick, Robin! We must smurf down to the Batcave and smurf the Batplane! Then we must smurf the batsmurf so we can smurf where the Joker is smurfing!"

The Croonerism Spate (explanations upon request)
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Post by Ni-ban Neko » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:31 pm

Sailorasteroid wrote:But that's how they spell it in the South:Ya'll, instead of Y'all.
No, it's not. It's y'all, and it's always been y'all. Don't argue with Southerners about how Southern words are spelled. :P
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Post by Tempest » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:31 pm

Sailorasteroid wrote:But that's how they spell it in the South:Ya'll, instead of Y'all.
I didn't think there was a correct spelling for Y'all. Besides, that's how I've always seen it spelled. Oh well. *modifies post*.

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Ni-ban Neko wrote: No, it's not. It's y'all, and it's always been y'all. Don't argue with Southerners about how Southern words are spelled. :P
XD! Indeed! I've been saying it all of my life. I'm sure there are other ways of spelling it, but that's the only way I've seen it.
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Post by Tiff » Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:35 pm

o_O; I've seen it both ways, too. I type it both ways, actually ^^;;

Dear God. The three southern chicks are about to get into a cat fight over the correct spelling of y'all/ya'll.

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Rachel: Huh...a...moo point?
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Post by AnimeGuru0 » Mon Aug 16, 2004 8:14 pm

Let's look at the GRAMMAR about the word ya'll/y'all.

An apostrophe is usually used to combine two words into one. The apostrophe usually symbolizes a dropped letter. In this case ya'll/y'all means "All of you". It uses the words "All" and the slang version of "you" that we all know as "Ya".

So how do we combine them? Well, In "Y'all" we're dropping the a off of the Ya and combining the all into the word. Perfectly acceptable in my book.

But wait, in "Ya'll", you're dropping the a off of "all" and keeping the "Ya" intact.

Hmm. I.......I don't know which one is more correct! ~_^

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Now to Las Vegas stereotypes.

- I don't live in a casino. I live in a HOUSE.
- I don't go out and gamble every night. I'm technically not even of age to do so anyways. Most locals don't gamble anyways.
- Prostitution is NOT legal in Las Vegas.
- Las Vegas is not a city full of sin. Frankly, the only place that is "sinful" I suppose is the strip, and guess what, 95% of those people on the strip being their naugtiest are tourists, they're not even FROM Las Vegas. If the tourists just stopped coming, there would be very little sinful about the place (granted, our economy would collapse as well but ya know ^^;;;;;;;;)

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Post by LadyFlameSniper » Mon Aug 16, 2004 9:07 pm

I'll do some for New Jersey
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1.We don't call it "New Joisey" I still trying to figure out WHERE THE HELL other people got this from. o_O I never heard anyone here speak with that funny so-called Jersey accent either.

2.Us women don't have big hair. Maybe in the 80s when it was the in thing but not anymore

3. There's a lot more stores in NJ than just "strip malls". Hell I live by not one but TWO major malls that have department stores and everything.

4. It doesn't smell disgusting unless you're on the Turnpike because that's a swamp area.

I now have an urge to do denounce some stereotypes for Jamaica (the country) too.
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1. Not everyone down there is a rasta and follows the Rastafarian religion. As a matter of fact about 90% of Jamaica is Protestant Christian

2.There re plenty of other races and ethnicites in Jamaica besides black. Sure blacks are the majority but there are also a good number of Chinese, Indians, half black/half white and other biracials living there. I remember when the dancehall reggae artist Sean Paul became popular over here back in '02. And people were surprised by how he looked since he's Jamaican but half black.( his father is of Portuguese descent)

3. Not everybody smokes weed and gets high 24/7.

4. The phrase "hey mon" isn't popular. At least not anymore. People still say mon at the end of sentances, but you'll never hear anoyone down there say "hey mon". I can't remember the last time I heard somebody use this phrase. Not even when I was down in Jamaica 5 years ago.

5.The Patois dialect isn't the standard language. In school kids learn standard English (but more similar to the British English) just as we do here

If I think of more later on I shall add them.
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Post by Lady of the Light » Mon Aug 16, 2004 11:50 pm

RoastedTwinkies wrote:I'm going to steal the Molson Canadian beer speech because it pretty much covers everything.

I'm not a lumberjack, or a furtrader,
and I don't live in an igloo, eat blubber, or own a dogsled,
and I don't know Jimmy, Sally, or Susie from Canada,
although I'm sure they're really really nice.

I have a Prime Minister, not a President.
I speak English and French, not American,
and I pronounce it about, not aboot
I can proudly sew my country's flag on my backpack;
I believe in peacekeeping, not policing;
and that the beaver is a truly proud and noble animal

a tuque is a hat,
a chesterfield is a couch,
and it is pronounced zed, not zee, zed!

Canada is the second largest land-mass,
the first nation of hockey,
and the best part of North America!

MY NAME IS JOE, AND I AM CANADIAN!
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It's all very true. And might I add that even though the Beaver is a truly proud and noble animal, I don't have one for a pet. Same goes for polar bears. And I don't say "Eh?" after every sentence. Although it is very amusing to go around saying, "Good day, eh?" and seeing how many people recognize where that is from.
And it doesn't snow all year round up here, just to let those tourists know that came to Canada in the middle of July with skis.
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Post by Strawbaby » Tue Aug 17, 2004 3:50 am

Oh, I love hearing what some people think about Australia! And Pauline Hanson always makes me laugh, especially her terrible fashion sense. Please explaaaiihnn.
By the way, JnP, I've never heard of using seppo/septic to refer to an American. Must be a Brisbane thing...

I'll add:
Many, if not most of us abhor Steve Irwin. He is our worst export. We make fun of him at all possible times. "Crikey" is not a word, it's an abomination.

We aren't all beach bums. Nobody I know can surf, but that's probably because I live in the cold southern part of Australia.

Stereotypes about our wildlife are the best of all, I reckon. While a lot of it may be fantastically dangerous, poisonous or bad-tempered (including the kangaroo, which can kill you with a kick, the koala, which brutally scratches, the platypus, which has poisonous barbs in its hindlegs and all those deadly spiders and snakes), most of this is not found anywhere near the city. If you could, I'd be moving to New Zealand. I see our larger wildlife in zoos, not my backyard, thank you very much.

Our closest neighbour is not four hours down the street as they said in The Simpsons.

The outback is not ten minutes drive from your nearest city.

Though we're part of the Commonwealth, the Queen doesn't rule us. We have that idiot Howard to do that ^^;

I'm sure I'll think of some more later. And to end - Yay Thorpie! He kicked ass in the 200 free and was so gracious about it :) *waves the Australian flag*

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Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Tue Aug 17, 2004 4:30 am

Strawbaby wrote:Oh, I love hearing what some people think about Australia! And Pauline Hanson always makes me laugh, especially her terrible fashion sense. Please explaaaiihnn.
By the way, JnP, I've never heard of using seppo/septic to refer to an American. Must be a Brisbane thing...
Well, JAG Down Under opened up in Luna Park with some guy saying "kill the bloody seppo" or something like that. I didn't see it but I read it in a review that trounced on the show while giving lessons in Being Australian.

For the record, the only spanish speakers are immigrants. "Mexican territory" refers to "south of the border, down Mexico way".

And most of us have TVs. We just don't have as many channels. And therefore, nowhere near as much mind-numbing crap.
"That new girl? She seems kinda weird to me. And what kind of name is Buffy anyway?"
"Hey, Aphrodisia!"
--unaired Buffy pilot

If you're reading this, then you've lost the game.

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