*cries!!!!!!* 4Kids has HOLLYWOOD Mew Mew

DistantMemory · Post by **DistantMemory** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:52 pm

Anna Roz wrote:Where are 4kids' offices?

4Kids Entertainment, Inc.
1414 Avenue of the Americas
New York City, NY 10019

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 6:33 pm

Tiff wrote:
Rainbow wrote: I mean, really, Sailor Moon got dubbed but that didn't stop fansubbers from making fansubs, now did it? And those can often be found at...(drumroll) ANIME CONVENTIONS!!

Gomen nasai, I'm just getting excited for ACen a few months too early...
Um....at every single convention i've gone to, if a show is licensed by a company, you are not allowed to sell fansubs or bootlegged merchandise.

I did not know that. I thought that it was allowed if the only licensed version was a dub...oh well.

Hmm, maybe I can find raw tapes...

Ni-ban Neko · Post by **Ni-ban Neko** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 7:52 pm

I imagine you'll still be able to find fansubs floating around the internet. >.>

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:22 pm

DistantMemory wrote:
Anna Roz wrote:Where are 4kids' offices?
4Kids Entertainment, Inc.
1414 Avenue of the Americas
New York City, NY 10019

In NYC, eh?

*grabes the guns*

I'm ready! @@

DuoTheShinigami02 · Post by **DuoTheShinigami02** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:53 pm

After seeing all the Pokemon movies (in raw Japanese, and comparing them), as well as dumbing down Pokemon (the latter Johto episodes as well as Advanced Generation), I'm thinking about hopping on the anti-4Kids bandwagon.

If you think Yu-Gi-Oh was bad, 4Kids went downhill with the Americanized version of "Mewtwo Strikes Back".

DistantMemory · Post by **DistantMemory** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 8:59 pm

There are two places I know of where you can get Pokemon fansubs:

1. Riibu-chan's Anime Outpost *click*
2. Random Masters *click*

As for actually becoming Anti-4Kids, I have mixed feelings about joining. I still have a sliver of hope for them, in that I want them to release subtitled versions (albeit under the influence of FUNimation), and Pokemon---when its old-school series was dubbed well---got me into the series and anime as a whole in the first place.

I'll wait. ^-^

Anthy · Post by **Anthy** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:49 pm

Oh... my... god... NO

I never cared all that much about Yu Gi Oh... but my BABY TOKYO MEW MEW...

I never, ever thought that it would be adapted into such...

Okay, Anthybabe calls her dibs on a TMM Uncensored!

MonkeyDLuffy · Post by **MonkeyDLuffy** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:04 pm

Anthy wrote:
Okay, Anthybabe calls her dibs on a TMM Uncensored!

I'll be first to join ^_^ Seriously, does 4Kids get GOOD feedback? I mean, I want to see what people are writing. Do the 4Kids executives look at the mail? I bet they don't. As...what ever his name is stated that they care about "kids" and how they feel about the show, not "anime fans". I can't beleive the crap they say. Hope a meteor strikes their houses!

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Feb 02, 2004 11:35 pm

Rainbow wrote:
I did not know that. I thought that it was allowed if the only licensed version was a dub...oh well.

Hmm, maybe I can find raw tapes...

Yep. Any kind of license. But like Ni-ban Neko said, i'm sure there'll still be tons of fansubs and video clips floating around.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 4:45 am

Thank you, Ni-ban Neko, since that's probably how I'm going to be able to view the series at ALL, considering I don't think I get FoxBox. (unless...does that mean it's going to be on the same channel as The Simpsons?)

shansen · Post by **shansen** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:08 am

I didn't find out about this until a couple of hours ago ... I didn't check anime news stuff Sunday (I was watching the Super Bowl + had people over, so I didn't have time).

Anyway, I think my reaction was like everyone else's ... shock. I mean, Tokyo Mew Mew is one of my favourite shows, and now it's going to become "Hollywood Mew Mew". I have a hard time saying (or typing) that title without doing a combination laugh/sob.

I wonder what Honobono is going to do ... they've already fansubbed up to Episode 34. Will they pull an Inuyasha and keep going, seeing how they're quite far into the series (granted, Inuyasha was a lot farther in before it was licensed + released, but still it's the best example I could come up with), or will they stop?

Anyway, I am very sad now.

Jumbled Thoughts · Post by **MarioKnight** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:24 am

My personal opinion on fansubs for this series is that they won't be stopped, especially since 4kids got this anime. Hell, fansubbers and distros can hide behind a grey area arguing that subs are ok since there's no uncut release planned (similar to what we SM distros and subbers did years ago prior to seasons getting picked up for uncut releases).

Anthy · Post by **Anthy** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 11:28 am

MarioKnight wrote:My personal opinion on fansubs for this series is that they won't be stopped, especially since 4kids got this anime. Hell, fansubbers and distros can hide behind a grey area arguing that subs are ok since there's no uncut release planned (similar to what we SM distros and subbers did years ago prior to seasons getting picked up for uncut releases).

I agree, Dan. I personally see no problem in subbing a hacked-up release if there's no sub planned. However, if there's a licensed sub on DVD or such, then releasing a fansub is just rude.

But I digress. I'm going to go cry over TMM now...

Anna Roz · Post by **Anna Roz** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 1:32 pm

If you think them just dubbing it is bad, listen to the original japanese Yugioh and Pocket Monsters theme songs and compare them to the dub songs. There's no way 4kids would spend their precious money to have a translated, English version of the TMM theme, so instead theyll probably release some dumb song that keeps repeating the title of the show over and over while some idiot bashes his head into a synthesizer..*imagines the horror*

*Note: dumb theme is only my guess

Hollywood..Hollywood Mew Mew (Mew!)
Hollywood..Hollywood Mew Mew (Mew!)
Gotta be tough, gotta fight the evil, gotta..gotta..gotta be a Mew Mew!
Hollywood! Hollywood Mew Mew!
Mew! Mew! Mew! Hollywood Mew Mew!
Mew! Mew! Mew! Hollywood Mew Mew!
HOLLYWOOD MEW MEW! (Meeeeeewww!)

Anyone want to join me in building a rocket to tie the 4kids people to and launch it off into outer space and watch it explode? Anyone?

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 3:28 pm

I thought some of the English Pokemon songs were actually pretty good...

Cardcaptor Takato · Post by **Cardcaptor Takato** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 6:31 pm

I quite liked the Shaman King dub opening theme song myself...

DreamEmpress · Post by **DreamEmpress** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 7:48 pm

Ok, I finally got on here and I am dumbstruck beyond belief. Hollywood Mew Mew? Obviously they can't read a map down there at 4Kids.

guess I'll be making sure to stock up on the manga until things get better.

Ok, I just checked their website. We're all doomed. I was trying to find a speck of hope, but I can't find any. Anybody feel like protesting or something? It might be our only hope.

KariOhki · Post by **KariOhki** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 8:15 pm

Tokyo Mew Mew is doomed.

I read this on GameFAQs, and it ruined my good day. Sent it out the window. I've been steaming and stewing over it since. How will they make it seem like Hollywood? Put the hill with those letters on it in the background of random scenes?

I'm definately writing a letter, and I'm bringing it to school to get my friends to sign it as well.

Sakuya · Post by **Sakuya** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:37 pm

If they are the racist bast***s people says they are, then why are they even licensing Japanese shows in the first place? They're just thinking about profits. Do they still think that US is the #1 nation in the world? No offense...

I heard that the Valley of the Wind Nausicaa dub was cut up so badly, Ghibli forbidded them to release it. Or was that for another anime? Well I certainly hope the Japanese company do the same thing for this. Then, 4Kids will know just how badly they are doing with anime. So far, we have seen several anime being dubbed by them and none of them are good. They seriously need to improve if they want better profits!

Edit:
If they are ever at an anime convention, I'm sure they will be bombarded by riots.

Ni-ban Neko · Post by **Ni-ban Neko** » Tue Feb 03, 2004 10:55 pm

They aren't marketing to fans, and I think that's a problem. There IS a fanbase, which is being ignored. It's going to look awfully weird when a little girl points out TokyoPop's Tokyo Mew Mew release and asks her mom why the name is wrong. Not good, Unsuitable4Kids.

Sailor Moon Uncensored

cries!!!!!! 4Kids has HOLLYWOOD Mew Mew