Support your favorite misunderstood character!

Post by **Tiff** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:08 am

I thought of a few more ont he way home:

Sailors Uranus and Neptune: Yes, I know they're very popular. But they are also very bashed. A lot. People constantly bitch and moan about how mean uranus and neptune are becuase they attack "poor hotaru" all the time. Come on...Hotaru, as much as I love her character, threatens the WORLD, something uranus and neptune are devoted to protecting. I'd bep retty pissed at her, too.

Hotaru: Hotaru is NOT weak and innocent all the time. She's often viewed as this pitiful little creature, when in reality, she has a very dangerous entity living inside of her, along with a very strong senshi inside of her. I like her becuase of her strength, good and bad, not for her pitiful, waif-like existance. Nobody's picking on poor lil hotaru; they're trying to prevent her from doing the worst.

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 12:39 am

First, Princess Zelda is often bashed just for (what they call, anyway) bossing their precious Linkie-pooh around...you know that when I say that, this comes from rabid venom-injected fangirls, right? Anyway, they should know that without this girl, the whole Zelda series would never come into existence. And Princess Ruto is hated for the same reason, bossing Link around in the belly of Jabujabu-sama and barely doing any work. And Skull Kid is hated because he was weak enough to let the mask control his mind....and Tingle because he is a weirdo midget who thinks he is a fairy.

Thats interesting... the manga she never seemed particularly bossy to me. (Then again, some fangirls are pretty crazy.) I always thought people hated Princess Zelda because she kept being captured by Ganon, you know the "damsel-in-distress." Its not like it is really her fault anyway, she doesn't wander stupidly in to his traps. As I recall in Ocarina of Time,
[spoiler]
she managed to evade Ganon for 7 years hiding in Ganon's plain sight as Shiek. Thats a plan that takes real guts.
[/spoiler]
I can see how some people would get annoyed by Tatl, Tael, or Princess Ruto. I personally am amused by them. Tingle freaks me out though...with his fruity laugh andvaguely sexual pelvic dance. *shudder*-_-;

Speaking of bossy girls, I know some characters that are misunderstood:

Kaoru from Ruruoni Kenshin.
Naru from Love Hina

For some reason a lot of people hate Kaoru and I'm assuming its just because she bosses Kenshin around and she still is overall a good person. Still, she really cares for him, and he loves her as well. And anybody can sympathize with Naru's outrage considering Keitaros number of accidents. (Though she did get annoying when she kept denying how she loved Keitaro when Kanako came along.)

DistantMemory · Post by **DistantMemory** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 4:54 pm

Thats interesting... the manga she never seemed particularly bossy to me. (Then again, some fangirls are pretty crazy.) I always thought people hated Princess Zelda because she kept being captured by Ganon, you know the "damsel-in-distress." Its not like it is really her fault anyway, she doesn't wander stupidly in to his traps.

Im glad we share the same opinion. ^^ And I forgot one more:

~Hongou Yui from Fushigi Yuugi

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 5:46 pm

I guess I should post.

Ayeka [Tenchi Muyo] - Most people generally dislike her for being Ryoko's rival for Tenchi's affections. Calling her spoiled and ect. But that's not how I really see her. She's very proper and polite. Also, how can someone be spoiled if they work for their house-hold privileges? Does Ayeka not do her chores to recieve these privileges? I also don't see how she can be labled a bitch when most of the time it's Ryoko that provokes her into a physical fight.

Wufei [Gundamwing] - I havn't seen this in ages and his character no longer holds any intrest for me, I feel he's still getting a big smack by the fans, saying he "treats women lowly". Not to get into a culture brawl, but aren't women generally treated with less respect then men in China? Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you can't change how you were raised. If he says, "Stupid woman" [or any other similar phrases] you can probably attribute that to cultural upbringing. If anything, the creators of GW were fairly accurate with the subtle character features.

Jet Black [Cowboy Bebop] - He gets a pretty good shaft from the fans. I've often read that he was pointless and stupid. o_o I happen to like his character. Sure, he isn't as attractive as Spike and Faye and his past isn't as exciting or myterious as their's, but where would the series be without him? He owns the Bebop. What he lacks in physical beauty, he makes up for in a kind-hearted and gentle personality.

I know I have more, I just can't think of it at the moment.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sun Jan 11, 2004 6:00 pm

Tempest wrote: Wufei [Gundamwing] - I havn't seen this in ages and his character no longer holds any intrest for me, I feel he's still getting a big smack by the fans, saying he "treats women lowly". Not to get into a culture brawl, but aren't women generally treated with less respect then men in China? Sometimes, no matter how hard you try, you can't change how you were raised. If he says, "Stupid woman" [or any other similar phrases] you can probably attribute that to cultural upbringing. If anything, the creators of GW were fairly accurate with the subtle character features.

Jet Black [Cowboy Bebop] - He gets a pretty good shaft from the fans. I've often read that he was pointless and stupid. o_o I happen to like his character. Sure, he isn't as attractive as Spike and Faye and his past isn't as exciting or myterious as their's, but were would the series be without him? He owns the Bebop. What he lacks in physical beauty, he makes up for in a kind-hearted and gentle personality.

I know I have more, I just can't think of it at the moment.

I agree with both of those:
Wufei-I don't exactly like him, but he's no more annoying to me than Genma on Ranma 1/2 (who's also incredibly sexist). At least Wufei doesn't say "Why can't a woman be like me!" like that obnoxious Henry Higgins does. (so far as I know, and I haven't watched much Gundam Wing at all)

Jet-Actually, he and Ed are my faves on that show. I love how Jet's unstereotypical--here's this muscular, rough-looking guy who does the housework!

I don't like Spike, though, he reminds me too much of what I dislike about Seiya. Faye I'm neutral too.

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 12:18 am

Thought up of a couple of more:

Chibiusa/ BSSM: Even in the R season, I don't get why people were always dissing her, calling her an unsympathetic brat. Personally, I found her cute and amusing, especially in S, where she's the world weakest Sailor Senshi.

Konno Mitsune/ Love Hina: most anti-Mitsune fans call her a stupid, useless, drunken bimbo, when she was actually a very sweet, kind girl who knew what was going on more than you think she did. Heck, if it wasn't for her,

[spoiler]Naru never would have stayed at the Hinata Sou in the first place, and the series would lose almost all meaning.[/spoiler]

Uzumaki Naruto/ Naruto: he's getting a bad rap as a Son Goku knockoff, but I feel that he's just as likable as that character. In a world where everyone shuns him, he manages to rise above others' criticism and keep faith in what he believes in. That seems like a strong character to me!

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 2:59 am

Konno Mitsune/ Love Hina: most anti-Mitsune fans call her a stupid, useless, drunken bimbo, when she was actually a very sweet, kind girl who knew what was going on more than you think she did. Heck, if it wasn't for her,

Uzumaki Naruto/ Naruto: he's getting a bad rap as a Son Goku knockoff, but I feel that he's just as likable as that character. In a world where everyone shuns him, he manages to rise above others' criticism and keep faith in what he believes in. That seems like a strong character to me!

Wow, I never heard of that before. Personally I love the little guy. If it was me, I would gone totally berserk after figuring out how to use the nine-tails powers and tried to blow away that sorry little ninja village after all the crap they put him through.

Mitsune is funny. I actually like all of the Love Hina characters. I've only read the manga though, so I don't know how she's like in the anime.

Anyways:
Sesshoumaru from Inu Yasha - for some reason people don't like him because they say he's basically the same type Rumiko Takahashi villain from her other works. I haven't seen much of her other stuff, so can someone please enlighten me on the subject?

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:03 pm

Vagabond wrote:Mitsune is funny. I actually like all of the Love Hina characters. I've only read the manga though, so I don't know how she's like in the anime.

Mitsune is a very humorous character in both the manga and the anime. Her personality is virtually the same in the anime, although her role in the anime is much smaller, much like with Haruka and Mutsumi.

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Fri Jan 16, 2004 6:44 pm

A lot of characters I love are misunderstood.

I love so many Sailor Moon characters that are misunderstood.
Serenity/Selenity, Endymion, Usagi, Mamoru, Seiya, Minako, Chibi-Usa, Makoto, the Starlights, Haruka, Hotaru, Demando, Safiru, Rei, Motoki, Michiru, Urawa Ryo, Ami, Urawa Ryo, Setsuna.

I need to mention some Peach Girl boys that are hot and need love.
Kazuya, Toji, Ryo/Ryou, Jigoro, Goro, Gigolo, Kairi

From Ranma 1/2 a lot of great guys are misundertood as well
Ryouga/Ryoga, Tatewaki Kuno, Ranma

From the MARS series I would like to say that Kira needs appreciation.

From Pokemon, Pocket Monsters are characters that need love.
Kojiro, Kosaburo, Kasumi rocks, Pikachu, Clefairy.

Many characters from the Zelda games are misunderstood.
Their are so many that I don't have time to, mention them. One misunderstood character is Malon from the Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. She is a great character that many fans turn into someone who she is not. Malon is cool.

A lot of Final Fantasy characters are misunderstood.
So many Final Fantasy characters are misunderstood that I would be here for hours naming them all. Theya re all great characters. One in particular that's the most misunderstood is Squall from Final Fantasy VIII. So many people say things about him before even going a quarter of the way through disc one and they jump to conclusions and stop playing the game. Squall is a fantastic character and one of the most dynamic characters. Their are so many other characters that are extremely misunderstood that I'd love to mention.

Yamato-san · Post by **Yamato-san** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 3:16 pm

-Meiou Setsuna/Sailor Pluto (Sailor Moon)

-Kenji/Tracey and Nyaasu/Meowth (Pocket Monsters), although, I think these two are bashed more by the creators of the show itself than fans. Poor Nyaasu can never get a break, can he?

-Sesshoumaru and Naraku (Inuyasha). People are making too many gay jokes off these guys just because they wear make-up. I actually think it's just a demon's natural coloring, I mean, has anyone stopped to look at Youkai Inuyasha's face? Where the hell do those purple markings suddenly come from?

-Kikyou (Inuyasha). Mainly, bashed by the people who think Kagoma+Inuyasha is a better coupling than Kikyou+Inuyasha. The thing is, though, I seem to somewhat bash Kagome likewise, mainly for being a slut (Inuyasha, Houjo, AND Kouga, plus maybe some more that appear after Cartoon Network's current point, which I watch) and being bossy, but other than that, Kagome's pretty good.

-Tails (Sonic the Hedgehog). You would not believe how many sprite comics I've seen where this little guy was killed off in one way or another. And, as with Kenji and Nyaasu, he also seems to be bashed by his own creators. His role in Sonic X is extremely small, and he's never seen his own Super form until Sonic 3 & Knuckles, and his Super form never appeared again afterwards (poor Knuckles also doesn't appear to have a Super form anymore).

-Beelzebumon (Digimon Tamers). Yeah, he killed off Leomon, and he was a savage, power-hungry maniac, but some people seem to overlook character development. Near the end of the series, he badly regrets what he's done in the past.

-Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII). He also killed off a character who many people liked. I liked the dead character, too, but that doesn't stop me from still liking Sephiroth. He has such a badass quality to him, and

[spoiler] he didn't even kill Aeris. It was some kind of fake. [/spoiler]

Post by **Tiff** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:53 pm

Sailor Moon, do you mind explaining why so many of your choices are misunderstood?

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:18 pm

I always make Tracey jokes. Come on, he's a 10 year old guy who has a very perverted obsession with a 60 year old. What's not to joke about. Well, his dub version is easy to crack on. Tracey and Kenji are quite different.

Post by **Tiff** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:45 pm

Sailor Moon wrote:I always make Tracey jokes. Come on, he's a 10 year old guy who has a very perverted obsession with a 60 year old. What's not to joke about. Well, his dub version is easy to crack on. Tracey and Kenji are quite different.

...um...excuse me, what? how is that explaining abuot your character choices?

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:31 am

Kenji/Tracey and Nyaasu/Meowth (Pocket Monsters), although, I think these two are bashed more by the creators of the show itself than fans. Poor Nyaasu can never get a break, can he?

-Sesshoumaru and Naraku (Inuyasha). People are making too many gay jokes off these guys just because they wear make-up. I actually think it's just a demon's natural coloring, I mean, has anyone stopped to look at Youkai Inuyasha's face? Where the hell do those purple markings suddenly come from?

-Kikyou (Inuyasha). Mainly, bashed by the people who think Kagoma+Inuyasha is a better coupling than Kikyou+Inuyasha. The thing is, though, I seem to somewhat bash Kagome likewise, mainly for being a slut (Inuyasha, Houjo, AND Kouga, plus maybe some more that appear after Cartoon Network's current point, which I watch) and being bossy, but other than that, Kagome's pretty good.

Tracey - I knew Tracey was being bashed by Pokemon fans but I didn't know that the creators disliked him as well. What do the creators say about him anyway?

Sesshoumaru and Naraku - This is the first time I've heard about gay jokes about them. Though now that I think about it, Sesshoumaru does look kind of fruity with long hair and that fur boa of his...

Kikyou - I can see other reasons why people don't like her. For the first couple of episodes, I can understand her pain and loss. Then there was this episode where Inuyasha was hugging her, and she held a knife to his throat and saying something about fate once broken can never be restored. I was like, what the hell, do you want Inuyasha or not? Also, there is this whole crazy scheme of giving Naraku the Shikon shards and then destroying them both at once. With a plan like that, you would think she would have some fantastic ace up her sleeve but no, she later ends up getting her ass kicked by him. She gets kinda unsympathetic from then on.

Let's see. I honestly believe that the anime Hideki (from Chobits) is a little underrated. Is he really that much perverted than the manga version? Its not like he actually fondles Chi daily or lifts up Yumi's skirt at work or something like that. He just has some fantasies about the hot women he meets daily, like any other normal guy. He talks to himself, but that's because he's a pretty lonely guy in the country (Did anyone notice that nobody helped him move out or call him from his home?). Most importantly, he still cares for and supports his friends, risks his life for Chi a few times, and works pretty hard. Imagine going off to some strange new place and supporting yourself from the get go without knowing anybody just to pursue a goal. I think all that is pretty admirable.

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:43 am

As I understand it, the part of that scene the knife was an anime creation.

And whoever called Kagome a slut, I don't think that's quite accurate.

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 3:10 am

As I understand it, the part of that scene the knife was an anime creation.

And whoever called Kagome a slut, I don't think that's quite accurate.

Yeah, in the manga Kikyou just says she wouldn't let Naraku touch her. She's a little easier to understand in the manga, except for the whole "lets give Naraku the Shikon shards" plan. I don't understand why they changed that scence in the anime, because it doesn't make any sense to me. And Kagome isn't a slut at all. She's enormously popular, but she is clearly only interested in Inuyasha considering that she always dumps Hojo and is indifferent to Kouga's advances.

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 2:00 pm

I didn't see your earlier psot, I was replying to a post made by someone earlier. I chose a lot of characters and will explain why they are misunderstood in a minute when I edit this message, since I want to make it clear that I understood,.

Yamato-san · Post by **Yamato-san** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:31 pm

Vagabond wrote:Tracey - I knew Tracey was being bashed by Pokemon fans but I didn't know that the creators disliked him as well. What do the creators say about him anyway?

Sesshoumaru and Naraku - This is the first time I've heard about gay jokes about them. Though now that I think about it, Sesshoumaru does look kind of fruity with long hair and that fur boa of his...

Actually, I was saying that more in regards to Nyaasu than Kenji, if at all to Kenji. Remember, I paired Nyaasu and Kenji together to save having to type up a seperate thing.

And about Sesshoumaru and Naraku being gay, you obviously haven't seen this Survivor spoof, which features the cast of Inuyasha staying inside a house instead of an island, and we see those particular two in a rather disturbing manner.

http://www.thefluffymag.nightsail.net/index2.htm
(note: it appears the place is down at the moment. As it says, though, come back on February 14th)

Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 9:12 pm

KariOhki wrote:Sylphiel (Slayers) - A lot of people call her a support character. And they say that the only thing she does is hang in the background and say "Gourry-sama" all of the time and is overly obsessed about him. She's not OVERLY obsessed, just a little if at all.
And also, Lina and the others would've been screwed over a couple of times if Sylphiel wasn't there.

*CHEERS*

Yes, just as Kariohki said. Much love for Sylph and her poor bashed-ness by the fandom. People call her clingy and obsessive, and why? The great thing about her is that it's BECAUSE of her love for Gourry that she doesn't get in the way of him and Lina. She stays in the background, yes, because of her devotion to him. She isn't clingy, she's devoted. And so what if she's fangirly over him at times?

I've also heard her called useless (hello, how is being the best healer in the whole series useless?!) and naive. I don't see this so-called naivety either, 90% of the time she seems to know what she's talking about. And if it wasn't for her, Lina and co. would be dead.

ahem *steps off soapbox* anyway, don't mind me, she's just my fave anime character ever ^^;

Other really misunderstood characters that I like:

Gundam Wing - I'll agree with a lot of you on Relena. I feel like I'm one of the few people who actually likes her. I've heard her called a bitch, maybe because she actually sticks up for her beliefs? I think she's really admirable.

Fushigi Yuugi - Yui. Yet another character who's called a bitch for reasons I don't get. Yes, she is downright cruel to Miaka... but can you really blame her after everything that Nakago led her to believe? If I was in her situation I'd probably do the same things. And plus, she kicks arse.. and (pardon the expression) she really had balls. (and her seiyuu is really good, is Sylph, and one of my fave ^^;;)

I know I have more, I'll add to this list later.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 12:35 am

Sylphiel wrote:
KariOhki wrote:Sylphiel (Slayers) - A lot of people call her a support character. And they say that the only thing she does is hang in the background and say "Gourry-sama" all of the time and is overly obsessed about him. She's not OVERLY obsessed, just a little if at all.
And also, Lina and the others would've been screwed over a couple of times if Sylphiel wasn't there.
*CHEERS*

Yes, just as Kariohki said. Much love for Sylph and her poor bashed-ness by the fandom. People call her clingy and obsessive, and why? The great thing about her is that it's BECAUSE of her love for Gourry that she doesn't get in the way of him and Lina. She stays in the background, yes, because of her devotion to him. She isn't clingy, she's devoted. And so what if she's fangirly over him at times?

I've also heard her called useless (hello, how is being the best healer in the whole series useless?!) and naive. I don't see this so-called naivety either, 90% of the time she seems to know what she's talking about. And if it wasn't for her, Lina and co. would be dead.

ahem *steps off soapbox* anyway, don't mind me, she's just my fave anime character ever ^^;

Other really misunderstood characters that I like:

Fushigi Yuugi - Yui. Yet another character who's called a bitch for reasons I don't get. Yes, she is downright cruel to Miaka... but can you really blame her after everything that Nakago led her to believe? If I was in her situation I'd probably do the same things. And plus, she kicks arse.. and (pardon the expression) she really had balls. (and her seiyuu is really good, is Sylph, and one of my fave ^^;;)

I know I have more, I'll add to this list later.

1) You know, Sylphiel may not be my favorite char, but I agree completey with you. And to be honest, she's not THAT fangirlish about Gourry. I mean, she calls him "Sama" becuase she respects him and cares deeply about him..but she's not like Martina..she doesn't cling to him and pet him with little hearts in her eyes. She's very modest about her love for him, and as you said, stays in the background for the sake of Lina's hidden feelings.

2) THANK YOU. Dude, Miaka annoys the crap out of me..and I'm so tired of people acting as thoug Yui was some evil bitch from hell. After the things Nakago convinced her of, I'm not the slightest bit surprised that she's pissed off.