4Kids! and their anime

Post by **Tiff** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:26 pm

#1SailorMoonFan wrote:...I find that eerie and scary. But 4Krap is just a money hungry company...

1) how is that eerie and scary? Hell, they're warning people that there may be ads ahead. Some people don't like to mess with ads/commercials.

2) Yes, just like every other large company in the world.

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:44 pm

Alexclow345 · Post by **Alexclow345** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:03 pm

OT: What happened to all of #1SailorMoonFan's posts?

Sailormars Obsessed fan · Post by **Sailormars Obsessed fan** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:42 pm

Alexclow345 wrote:OT: What happened to all of #1SailorMoonFan's posts?

I wanted to ask that too. its really creeping me out

Post by **Tiff** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:43 pm

Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote:
Alexclow345 wrote:OT: What happened to all of #1SailorMoonFan's posts?
I wanted to ask that too. its really creeping me out

ADMIN MODE:

#1SailorMoonFan did it himself. He has been banned becuase of it and other things. Don't discuss it any further, please,and just get back on topic.

Kameko · Post by **Kameko** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 9:14 pm

The the thing that pisses me off the most about 4Kids is that they did little advertising for the uncut and unedited Shaman King and Yugioh DVDs and used dubtitles. Then, when the DVDs flopped, instead advertising it more and fixing the subtitles they just stopped making them. And they use this as proof that people don't want uncut and unedited DVDs.

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:53 pm

4kids is the worst dubbing company ever! I just saw an episode of their version of One Piece and was appalled.

First of all, One Piece isn't even an anime that is aimed towards kids. So what were they thinking in trying to make it a kids show? Anime is popular enough that it probably would've done well sold on the shelves in stores or on adult swim.

Don't get me started on the voices, I've already ranted on the worst in the One Piece thread.

I heard that over thirty episodes were cut out, most of them not even being filler. And they changed guns to super soakers! How stupid is that! Guns are painted green or yellow, Sanji now has a lolipop in his mouth instead of a cigarette. And that stupid rap for the opening! Totally ruins the mood for the show!

This dub makes the Dic Sailor Moon dub look like a masterpiece! And that's really saying something.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:14 am

No shit. Dic's Sailor Moon isn't even that bad now... thank god their tiaras werent doughnuts or something (or pizza.. lol)

I saw about 5 minutes of One Piece but since i haven't seen much of One Piece regardless I wont say much there.

I did see alot of Poke'mon when I was young and I really hate the way they've been cutting and pasting objects in and out of there. it really irks me sometimes (like replacing a rice ball with a sub-sandwhich...)

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:19 am

While the episode cutting and voices are things we're going to have to suffer through, I actually find the latest batch of One Piece episodes (the post-Laboon arcs) to be tolerable enough to watch. Yeah, I have to filter out a lot of the corny dialouge and grandiose speeches, but the plot is still there, and though the violence is toned down, it doesn't tend to detract me from the overall seriousness of the situation. The VAs for many of the new characters - from the citizens of Alubarna to some of the members of Baroque Works - are actually really good. I say, if you can drag yourself through the first episodes, you'll be pretty surprised at how decent it eventually becomes.

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:31 pm

Rin wrote:First of all, One Piece isn't even an anime that is aimed towards kids.

Yes it is.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:11 pm

I thought all anime was aimed towards kids (well, except CB and that porno stuff of course.)

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:13 pm

Panda wrote:I thought all anime was aimed towards kids (well, except CB and that porno stuff of course.)

o.O dude, no way.

Perfect Blue? So not for kids. Excel Saga? Was aired late at night so kids wouldn't watch it. There are a lot of titles that were aimed at older teens and younger adults.

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:17 pm

Panda wrote:I thought all anime was aimed towards kids (well, except CB and that porno stuff of course.)

All anime IS for kids! I'm totally gonna show my future children Paranoia Agent and Bio Hunter! =D [/sarcasm]

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:19 pm

I'm not saying there aren't adult anime, we have adult cartoons here to. My point is is that alot of these mainstreamed titles are made for children probably up to the age of 12.

Damn y'all, it's just a cartoon.

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:27 pm

Panda wrote:I'm not saying there aren't adult anime, we have adult cartoons here to. My point is is that alot of these mainstreamed titles are made for children probably up to the age of 12.

Damn y'all, it's just a cartoon.

*Blink* nobody's mad at you, calm down. You stated that you thought ALL ANIME (and those are YOUR words) was for kids, and Neon Heart and I replied, saying it wasn't.

The titles we're listing aren't hentai. If you know there are adult-theme anime that AREN'T hentai, then why make the statement that you thought all anime was aimed at kids??

We were simply saying that no, that isn't the case.

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:26 pm

Panda wrote:I'm not saying there aren't adult anime, we have adult cartoons here to. My point is is that alot of these mainstreamed titles are made for children probably up to the age of 12.

Damn y'all, it's just a cartoon.

Mainstream titles?

Evangelion- Defenintly not for kids, and probably the most popular anime titles around. Even if it was for kids, there's no way in hell they'd understand it.

Lain- Most adults don't even know what the hell is going on here

Cowboy Bebop- Kids would probably get bored watching it

Ranma 1/2- Obviously for a more mature audience

Video Girl Ai- Nope

Love Hina- Aimed towards older teens

Slayers- Strikes me as something older teens would want to watch

Ai Yori Aoshi- Older teens. Children probably wouldn't like it.

Tenchi Muyo- Teens

Much, much, much more, but my brain is about dead at the moment from solving a particularly difficult Sudoku.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 12:58 pm

Mmm, okay, not how many of those started out as manga?

At least 4/8 of them did (I haven't seen Lain or Ai Yori Aoshi (and swore I heard that was porn... guess not...) )

Manga is common there and isn't looked down upon. Anime has the same rep as cartoons do here. If you're old and you watch cartoons you're either a stoner or you're a loser.

Now for disection:

NGE: I know this series has a manga although I think it began as an anime (I'm not sure.) Alsmot all of the themes presented in Eva were done on a whim to impress an audience. Granted alot of it's material isn't suitable for young children older kids could easily watch and understand the basic concepts. (I know I watched NGE for the first time when i was about 9-10 years old.)

Haven't seen Lain

Cowboy Bebop: I staed in my original post that CB was intended for adults.

Ranma 1/2: I don't see how you're telling me something like Ranma couldn't be interpreted by kids? I mean, all ranma has going for it is nudity and sex change. Most of it's humor is pretty slapstick.

Haven't seen Video Gilr Ai... certainly doesn't sound very mainstream or... well... kid friendly.

Slayers: I've seen only a little of this series and really I can't see why a kid wouldn't watch this either. It's fun, it moves fast. It's a kids dream.

Haven't seen Ai Yori Aoshi

Tenchi Muyo: If were talking mainstream in America then, yes, this is indeed a kids show. It was on Toonami for several years. If were talking Japan then hell no *The OVA* isn't meant for children. The TV series on the other hand, is much more toned down. (I'm a huge tenchi fan so I'll defend that one to the death.)

And since were talking mainstream, are you talking about mainstream via America or Japan. I'm talking both as equally as I can.

Kameko · Post by **Kameko** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:25 pm

If we're talking America, none of those shows are mainstream. Tenchi was the closest to being mainstream. Anime is a niche product and, while it is more popular then it was in the 90s, it still has a ways to go before you can consider it mainstream. NGE was an anime first and a person on the production staff (can't remember who it was and I'm too lazy to look it up) did indeed say that all the religious stuff was put in there because it would seem cool to non-Christian Japan. It also took a lot from Space Runway Ideon.

Cardcaptor Takato · Post by **Cardcaptor Takato** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:01 pm

Panda wrote:
Now for disection:

NGE: I know this series has a manga although I think it began as an anime (I'm not sure.) Alsmot all of the themes presented in Eva were done on a whim to impress an audience. Granted alot of it's material isn't suitable for young children older kids could easily watch and understand the basic concepts. (I know I watched NGE for the first time when i was about 9-10 years old.)

From my understanding (I've never actually seen Evangelion, so I'm going by what I've heard other people state a billion times before on the Internet, so please correct me if I'm wrong) Evangelion was originally aired at a timeslot in Japan that was targeted at teenagers and not children, but the show wasn't performing very well at that timeslot, so it ended up being moved to a later timeslot where the series ended up being even more popular with adults than teenagers. Evangelion wasn't ever intended to be for children; it was meant for teenagers but the adults ended up liking it even more so they ended up focusing on appealing to the adults. If Evangelion was originally targeted to children, they obvisouly didn't like it as much as the adults did.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:41 pm

As far as NGE goes... All I'm trying to say is that kid could easily pick it up and enjoy watching it. Sure it's a little gory here and there but it isn't that hard to understand whats basically happening.

As for the actualy arguement. No, NGE is not intended for kids.