Dubs you think are good

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Sun Nov 09, 2003 10:20 pm

Sailor Sapphire wrote:Would it be theoretically possible to have a dub that is better than the sub?

Not sure. It really depends on the types of anime that you like. I guess it's really boils down to personal preference. I happen to like some stuff better dubbed then I do subbed.

Obsessive Touga Fan · Post by **Obsessive Touga Fan** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:07 am

In no real order:

X TV
Chobits
Gundam Wing
Witch Hunter Robin
Angelic Layer
Risky Safety
Escaflowne (don'thurtme

I know it has big problems, but I love it anyway)
Utena (not so much in the beginning)
Cowboy Bebop
Outlaw Star

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 3:20 am

Obsessive Touga Fan wrote:Escaflowne (don'thurtme I know it has big problems, but I love it anyway)

I thought the Escaflowne dub* is pretty good.

*The movie dub, at least. I assume the uncut dub of the TV series is similarly good

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:16 pm

Tempest wrote:
Sailor Sapphire wrote:Would it be theoretically possible to have a dub that is better than the sub?
Not sure. It really depends on the types of anime that you like. I guess it's really boils down to personal preference. I happen to like some stuff better dubbed then I do subbed.

Yep. [controversial statement]I enjoyed the DBZ: Broli movie more dubbed than I did subbed. I think the music in the Japanese version sucks. It has no emotion in it at all. But the music in the dubbed movie was very good. It really fit the battle scenes. So, it was more enjoyable dubbed to me. [/controversial statement]

Obsessive Touga Fan · Post by **Obsessive Touga Fan** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:11 pm

Dinozore wrote:I thought the Escaflowne dub* is pretty good.

*The movie dub, at least. I assume the uncut dub of the TV series is similarly good

I have no real problems with the movie dub. The uncut TV series dub has the same cast (most of whom are great - yes, I even like Dilandau's dub voice, oddly enough), but the writing and directing aren't very good, and as a result a lot of the lines come off as very stilted. Also, the fact that the production of it was rushed really shows... Once in a while a character says something that just doesn't make sense, like "Give me back my Escaflowne, and give me back my Guymelef!" Also the audio mixing is quite bad - the music is much quieter than it should be. What else... oh yes! The Dragonslayers seem to have different voices every single time they appear. Sometimes female voices, sometimes male voices.

And yet, I still enjoy it a lot. It's probably because my first experience with Escaflowne was watching the edited dub on Fox Kids (all of it - in the UK they showed all 23 episodes)... I'm used to the dub cast, and I think they really suit the characters well.

crazydiamond · Post by **crazydiamond** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:03 pm

Would it be theoretically possible to have a dub that is better than the sub?

A friend of mine says the Trigun dub is better than the original, but I'm a submonkey (fan of subs), so I wouldn't know. I also don't own the series (she does). I, too, prefer subs (hence: submonkey), but usually only after I've seen the dub and the dub is what hooked me. I recently watched the Cowboy Bebop movie dubbed with the "Japanese" subtitles (that is...somehow, we managed to get the subtitles of the "original" version to play during the DUB). Sometimes the lines were way off. It was pretty funny. The voices were really different, tho, cuz we watched the first few minutes of the original before deciding we wanted to understand what they were saying and not so much read. Anyway, everything you've mentioned I agree with. Yu Yu Hakusho, I don't so much like the VAs, but the dialogue itself is good.

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:07 pm

crazydiamond wrote:A friend of mine says the Trigun dub is better than the original, but I'm a submonkey (fan of subs), so I wouldn't know. I also don't own the series (she does). I, too, prefer subs (hence: submonkey), but usually only after I've seen the dub and the dub is what hooked me. I recently watched the Cowboy Bebop movie dubbed with the "Japanese" subtitles (that is...somehow, we managed to get the subtitles of the "original" version to play during the DUB). Sometimes the lines were way off. It was pretty funny.

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The Trigun dub is decent, but I wouldn't go as far as to say that it's better. They give everyone Texas accents because it's set in a western setting -_- that annoys me a bit, but I suppose I understand why they did it.

And yeah, quite a few DVDs let you do that.

crazydiamond · Post by **crazydiamond** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:10 pm

And yeah, quite a few DVDs let you do that.

*is quite DVD ignorant.* I had no idea. I'll have to remember that next time.

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:46 pm

Princess Mononoke
Cowboy Bebop
Outlaw Star
Gundam Wing

And I guess Tenchi Muyo's, Utena's, and Inu Yasha's are OK.

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:55 pm

Pokemon
Sailor Moon S and Super S
Digimon

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:13 pm

Having bought the first volume of Chobits more or less to watch it dubbed, I have to say the dub is just as good as I'd heard. Chii and Sumomo sound very close to the way they do in Japanese (Chii especially), and everyone's voices fit their characters well.

The dub of Maison Ikkoku is also very good.

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Sat Jan 17, 2004 6:46 pm

While the Japanese version of Sailor Moon is my favorite version, I thought the Sailor Moon dub was well done. I mean, sure it changes a lot from the original Japanese version, and cuts out a lot of scenes, but if you view them as separate shows, the DiC dub is very good. SOme of their voice actors are wonderful. The DiC music is also nice. While it is a change from the Japanese version's music and the dialouge changes a lot, DiC did put a lot of work into a lot of their dubbed episodes. In 1995 they did. Most of the episodes are consistent, and the fact that they bring up things from the first season in conversation, like Urawa Ryo was brought up in the R season, which showed great continuity. A lot fo the voice actors were very passioante in their roles and you could tell they really loved their job. While the played some scenes backwards, changed a lot of the dialouge and cut scenes, they did put a lot of work into it.

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 4:31 pm

I have recently seen the dubbed version of Last Exile, and it seems pretty good. They stick pretty close to the subbed script, and the voices aren't half bad. I've seen a few snippets of the dubbed Fruits Basket as well. The voices seem pretty good. I think they have the guy who does the voice of dubbed Legato Bluesummers (from Trigun) do the voice of Akito, which is kinda appropriate.

Escaflowne (don'thurtme I know it has big problems, but I love it anyway)

I'm a little conflicted about the Escaflowne dub. On the one hand, they butchered it horribly, and it shows. I remember one scene when Van's country was being destroyed and his master was saying something to Van as he was dying. They actually blacked out half the screen in order to hide the blood.

However, even that couldn't kill the series for me, I still wanted to see the rest of it. I guess its just a testament to how good the original series was.

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 6:29 pm

I respect the dub SM mainly for its music, but the Cloverway dubbers did a better job of keeping the original's jokes to an extent.

Take the episode where Serena and Reni switch ages, for example:

What Mamoru says in the English version when he discovers the ol' switcheroo: "Great, where's the hidden camera?
What Mamoru says in the original: "Great, am I on Candid Camera?" (or something to that extent)

So while Cloverway did a better job of preserving the original music and etc. they did the best job at keeping the original jokes.

Celexa · Post by **Celexa** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:13 pm

One great dub was the Chobits dub. The voices were very accurate and fitting, and they kept most of the lines very intact.

(Japanese version:
Chii: Pervert...Hideki is a pervert!
Hideki: Don't say that Chii!
Chii: Hideki is a pervert!

English version:
Chii: Pervert...Hideki is a pervert!
Hideki: Chii don't go saying that!
Chii: Hideki is a pervert!)

And generally really good. The one single thing that bothered me was extremely small and almost pointless mentioning, but they changed Yumi saying "I'm an E cup" to "I'm a D cup" and the reason I didn't like that was because I didn't see the point in that, but like I said, very minor.

KoiNoVash · Post by **KoiNoVash** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 7:34 pm

Fruits Basket is pretty well done, but I still enjoy the sub much more... mostly because Kotono Mitsuishi. Spitirited Away is a wonderful dub as well (except now that I learned that the girl who plays Chihiro also plays the scary girl from the American remake of the Ring, so I have issues listening to the English version now for some reason).

DuoTheShinigami02 · Post by **DuoTheShinigami02** » Sun Jan 18, 2004 8:36 pm

In no particular order:

Tenchi Muyo (all versions, except for GXP, 'cause it isn't out yet!)

Outlaw Star

Hand Maid May

Strawberry Eggs

Slayers (the Software Sculptors version, 'cause I didn't watch the ADV's version, yet)

DreamEmpress · Post by **DreamEmpress** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:40 am

the dubs I liked were:

Laputa: Castle in the Sky
Kiki's Delivery Service
Spirited Away
Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 12:51 am

Dubs I found to be good:

Trigun
Cowboy Bebop
Inuyasha
Pokemon (pre-Johto only)
Digimon Tamers
All things Tenchi except the Pretty Sammy OAVs and GXP (not out yet..)
Golden Boy
Neon Genesis Evangelion
Excel Saga
Oh! My Goddess
Ah! My Goddess the Movie
Ocean Group dubbed DBZ movies (aka the first three movies)
All Miyazaki movie dubs except Laputa
FLCL (prefer it to the Jap. version, actually)

Obsessive Touga Fan · Post by **Obsessive Touga Fan** » Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:15 am

Vagabond wrote:I'm a little conflicted about the Escaflowne dub. On the one hand, they butchered it horribly, and it shows. I remember one scene when Van's country was being destroyed and his master was saying something to Van as he was dying. They actually blacked out half the screen in order to hide the blood. However, even that couldn't kill the series for me, I still wanted to see the rest of it. I guess its just a testament to how good the original series was.

I was talking about the uncut dub rather than the edited dub. That said, the edited dub is still an excellent series... just not as good as the original (or the uncut dub).