Which is more original, Chobits or Cardcaptor Sakura?

MollyNephlite_Fan · Post by **MollyNephlite_Fan** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:25 pm

If you had to choose which you think is more orginial, a girl in search of card powers or a cyborg trying to find someone to love her (bad summeries I know. But I try) which would you choose?

I love both of these mangas, but I think Carcaptor Sakura is power orginal. The computer robert thing I feel like has been used, but Cardcaptors is more of a superhero twist!

moonangel7 · Post by **moonangel7** » Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:48 pm

I dont know because CardCaptor Sakura kinda has that Pokemon, Digimon, Yugioh thing. It involves using cards or card related powers and fits into those genres. They are both good anime though.

Aya Reiko · Post by **Aya Reiko** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:27 am

moonangel7 wrote:I dont know because CardCaptor Sakura kinda has that Pokemon, Digimon, Yugioh thing. It involves using cards or card related powers and fits into those genres. They are both good anime though.

Thinking the same thing here. CCS sort've combines the collector aspect of Pokemon with Mahou Shoujo style like Sailormoon.

Chobits probably is as derivative as CCS, just not as obviously so.

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:08 am

MollyNephlite_Fan wrote:a cyborg trying to find someone to love her (bad summeries I know. But I try) which would you choose?

Chii isn't a cyborg, she's an android. A cyborg is a being that's part human, part machine.

/nitpick.

Even though I love Chobits, CCS is a very cool and creative concept. Hands down.

MollyNephlite_Fan · Post by **MollyNephlite_Fan** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:39 am

Umino wrote:
MollyNephlite_Fan wrote:a cyborg trying to find someone to love her (bad summeries I know. But I try) which would you choose?
Chii isn't a cyborg, she's an android. A cyborg is a being that's part human, part machine.

/nitpick.

Even though I love Chobits, CCS is a very cool and creative concept. Hands down.

NOTE: I said they were bad summeries. *sighs* no one should leave anything up to me.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:31 pm

I go with Chobits. CCS is a superhero show, and that's been done. Now, android shows have been done, but it's rare to see one where the androids are ubiquitous and non-threatening, and where one is basically trained from the ground up.

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:37 am

Cardcaptor Sakura at least proved that it was possible to do a shoujo anime in the 90s without ripping off of Sailor Moon. The idea of a non-threatening female android being rased by a male human had been done before in Tezuka Ozamu's Metropolis (which predates Chobits by over 50 years; the manga was published in 1949).

Cardcaptor Takato · Post by **Cardcaptor Takato** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 5:10 pm

My vote goes towards CCS as being more original. While Chobits has originality too, it's just yet another shounen/romance/comedy type of series to me. CCS on the other hand put a new spin on the magical girl genre, something which is really rare to do without making it looking like a rip-off of Sailor Moon.

MollyNephlite_Fan · Post by **MollyNephlite_Fan** » Mon Aug 29, 2005 10:37 pm

Cardcaptor Takato wrote:My vote goes towards CCS as being more original. While Chobits has originality too, it's just yet another shounen/romance/comedy type of series to me. CCS on the other hand put a new spin on the magical girl genre, something which is really rare to do without making it looking like a rip-off of Sailor Moon.

I agree...but wait, there must have been SOME anime that was girl superheros before Sailor Moon...right?

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 3:18 pm

There were a couple of magical girl series where the girls battled evil and not just dressed up in girly outfits or become pop singers, yeah, but Sailor Moon was the first ot make it a consistent plot point in the series, and one of the first (but not the first) to have a team of magical girls fighting alongside each other.

Vagabond · Post by **Vagabond** » Wed Aug 31, 2005 6:14 pm

There were a couple of magical girl series where the girls battled evil and not just dressed up in girly outfits or become pop singers, yeah, but Sailor Moon was the first ot make it a consistent plot point in the series, and one of the first (but not the first) to have a team of magical girls fighting alongside each other.

Wait a minute. I thought Sailormoon was the first show to have a team of magical girls fight alongside each other. Wasn't that the reason why it was so revolutionary? If it wasn't, what anime had an all magical girl team?

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:20 am

Studio Pierrot made a bunch of OAVs in the 1980s combining several of their magical girls from various shows together to fight a single foe;

http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedi ... hp?id=4742

http://animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedi ... hp?id=4743

Sailor Moon featured the first popular magical girl team, though.

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:00 am

MollyNephlite_Fan wrote:I agree...but wait, there must have been SOME anime that was girl superheros before Sailor Moon...right?

Yep, like Cutie Honey.

The mahou shoujo (magical girl) genre goes back way to the 60's. In the 70's it was pretty popular. Although, most of them didn't really fight evil as far as I know. I think Cutie Honey was the first 'magical girl' to fight evil.

Although I think Sailor Moon was more inspired by sentai (Power Rangers, Rainbowman, Gekko Kamen) than mahou no shoujo. Of course it's problemly both.

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:23 pm

Although I think Sailor Moon was more inspired by sentai (Power Rangers, Rainbowman, Gekko Kamen) than mahou no shoujo. Of course it's problemly both.

I wouldn't be surprised if that was how Sailor Moon was born. Toei produces the live-action Power Rangers series in Japan, so they probably thought of doing that animated, only with the team be all-female. It has to be the reason Sailor Moon fought alonside others; the anime and manga were in production almost simultaneously.

Toei also produced Cutie Honey, if I remember as well. They probably wanted to take back their position as kings of mahou shoujo from Studio Pierrot, who ruled the 80's with their shoujo series.

Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:07 pm

Samurai Troopers - which was in the 80s, so definitely came before BSSM - had the five main team of guys fighting evil, with colors and elements mostly the same as BSSM's inners. Very similar concept, and it was pretty popular, so... I can see that being a part of it as well... I guess that would fall under the similar style as Power Rangers and such. The plot is quite different but I sort of think of BSSM as the female version of that.

As for on-topic... umm.. dunno, never seen Chobits. ^^; But personally I never thought of CCS as a terribly original concept, although it was entertaining.

Usagi04 · Post by **Usagi04** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 8:40 pm

I think CCS is more original because the set of all of the different cards is a cool idea.

sailor_serenity33 · Post by **sailor_serenity33** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:44 pm

I would have to say Cardcaptor Sakura. It's also one of my favorite mange.

DreamEmpress · Post by **DreamEmpress** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:56 am

It's hard to decide. In one sense, they are both not completly original, but in another sense they are. However I'm going to have to say CardCaptor Sakura.

I'm saying CCS because it has a lot of elements that combine to make it so different from the other magical series out there. i always liked that Sakura had connections with Clow and that she wasn't the only one in her family who had powers. Then you had the unique romantic pairing that I always found fasinating. Then there's Yue/Yukito. He's my other reason for watching.... *ahem* anyway... Also having the cards perform different functions. Not only magical things but they could also help her figure out things too, like the identity of another card or tell a fortune. it reminds me a bit of the tarot cards (like in volume of the manga) Then there's the non magical friend who is constantly tagging along and filming her. And her very caring brother who is a pain, but at the same time looks out for her and keeps her secret. (even though she doesn't know it)

Basically I've just always found the elements in this series to be uniquely woven together to make an original story all it's own.

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