What dub songs do you think were effective?

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Mar 24, 2004 10:18 pm

marspeach wrote:I thought the beat of My Only Love fit the scene more. The Maboroshi no Ginzuishou song wasn't good enough for me. I guess the words fit the situation, but I didn't care for it.

Yes, but you're forgetting that it isn't about what you didn't CARE for, it's about which was more effective with the scene..I mean, the words mean a lot in a song. The beat may have been good, but it's worthless if the words don't even fit what's going on, IMO.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Sun May 02, 2004 7:51 pm

I used to like My Only Love, even though I had never heard Maboroshi no Ginzuishou. But recently I found an MP3 of MNG. T_T It's soooo beautiful, I love it more. Don't you just want to slow dance with someone you love? So, now I prefer MNG, although My Only Love is still a pretty song.

Carry On is good. I like the beat better than Moonlight Densetsu, but the lyrics are to stupid for me.

sailor53 · Post by **sailor53** » Sun May 02, 2004 9:09 pm

I like the songs "My Only Love" and "The Power of Love." Especially "The Power of Love" it's not as good as "Moon Revenge," but it's one of those songs you could listen to over and over again.

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Mon May 10, 2004 6:57 pm

I loved the song "My Only Love." Usagi and Mamoru are in love before they are dating, and when the song is played they are in love. They are together in all five seasons, and when they are dating they show that they loved each other before they were dating. They were in love before they found out about their secret identities and before they started dating and found out about their secret pasts. The song "My Only Love" fits the scene perfectly. Usagi and Mamoru are my favorite couple and I feel that "My Only Love" captures their romance wonderfully.

I loved the transformation songs, especially Sailor Moon's transformation song. Yes, it was a lot different in the Japanese version, but I thought both versions were great.

I love Tuxedo Mask's theme in both versions. I really feel that the music fits perfect with the moments.

I love the title theme music.

I love the theme song in botht he English and Japanese versions. The beat of the English version is a remix of the Japanese version, and sounds really well done.

I loved the music that's played when Darien Mamoru Endymion is regaining his memories. The music in the English version and the Japanese version are both touching and capture the moments perfectly.

I love the song "Carry On", it fits very well with the scene, Moonlight Densetsu is also a very well placed song, they both portray different emotions in the scenes.

I really loved the song "The Power of Love" as well.

Jennifer Cihi is the singer of "My Only Love".

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Mon May 10, 2004 7:11 pm

Sailor Moon wrote:I loved the song "My Only Love." Usagi and Mamoru are in love before they are dating, and when the song is played they are in love. They are together in all five seasons, and when they are dating they show that they loved each other before they were dating. They were in love before they found out about their secret identities and before they started dating and found out about their secret pasts. The song "My Only Love" fits the scene perfectly. Usagi and Mamoru are my favorite couple and I feel that "My Only Love" captures their romance wonderfully.

Jennifer Love Hewitt is the singer of "My Only Love".

1. No, they were not. Usagi and Mamoru's relationship before they started dating was planotic at best. They always fought and made fun of each other, and while they became close friends, there is no indication either way that they loved each other.

2. It's sung by Jennifer Cihi, not Jennifer Love Hewitt.

Artemis · Post by **Artemis** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:33 pm

I really liked "My Only Love", even though it didn't really fit in with the scene it was played in. The lyrics were cool, and I loved the melody.

I also ADORE Rainy Day Man, my favorite dub song of all time.

Celexa wrote:Rainy Day Man - I.LOVE.THIS.SONG. It's soooo sad, and I tend to like sad songs a lot. Nice soothing melody too. I could FEEL Makoto's pain when I heard it.

Couldn't have put it better myself ^^

And I also love "The Power of Love", because it was cool.

I didn't like "Only a Memory Away", because, no offense, the lyrics were pretty stupid (in my opinion).

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Tue May 11, 2004 10:37 pm

Artemis

I didn't like "Only a Memory Away", because, no offense, the lyrics were pretty stupid (in my opinion).

That song confused me as a kid because the lyrics on the show and on the CD were different @_@. But I agree, that song is a bit irritating.

Sailor Moon · Post by **Sailor Moon** » Sun May 16, 2004 7:15 pm

I meant to write Jennifer Cihi, I accidently wrote Jennifer Love Hewitt. Opps! Thanks for catching my typo. ^_^ I felt that they had feelings for each other before they were dating, but once their secret identities were revealed, then they had a chance to admit their feelings to themselves, it gave them the perfect opportunity. Before they were dating, Mamoru is always smiling at Usagi, and in the Japanese version it is shown that before they were dating they had feelings for each other, but got together once they discovered their identities of Tuxedo Kamen and Sailor Moon. Only the tear of true love could summon the ginzuishou. Anyway, when they are dating you can tell that they love each other for who they are. Also, I remembered another great song from the English version. "The Power of Love" I'm going to edit my post to contain that. Thank you so much for pointing out that I wrote Jennifer Love Hewitt instead of Jennifer Cihi. I could have caused a lot of confusion for other people if you hadn't pointed that out. Thanks! Anyway, let's get back to the topic! ^_^

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Sun May 16, 2004 7:49 pm

Sailor Moon

I felt that they had feelings for each other before they were dating, but once their secret identities were revealed, then they had a chance to admit their feelings to themselves,

I'm not sure about this, but in the episode where their identities are revealed, in the elevator, doesn't Usagi say something like "I used to hate you the most, now you're second", or something like that after hearing his story about his past life (if I'm way off I apologize @__@). Maybe Mamoru felt something for her in that episode, but I don't think Usagi was fond of him or anything until after she realized their past.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Sun May 16, 2004 7:50 pm

Sailor Moon wrote:Before they were dating, Mamoru is always smiling at Usagi, and in the Japanese version it is shown that before they were dating they had feelings for each other, but got together once they discovered their identities of Tuxedo Kamen and Sailor Moon.

Firstly: Always? No, not always. Sometimes they're smarmy smiles (as in, he's smiling because he's laughing at her), and at other times they are truely smiles of happiness. But they were friends at most; no where in the Japnese version does it say or imply that the feelings they felt for each other were anything more than platonic. If they did have such strong feelings for each other, then Usagi wouldn't be swooning over Motoki every chance she could, nor would Mamoru have dated Rei to begin with.

Sailor Moon wrote:Only the tear of true love could summon the ginzuishou.

Explain how Chibi Usa's ginzuishou appears. Does she have true love for Usagi?

Sailor Moon wrote:Anyway, when they are dating you can tell that they love each other for who they are.

Really? Then why did NO ONE close to them (Ami, Makoto, Rei, or Motoki) do anything to get them together? Why didn't Rei stop seeing Mamoru if it was so obvious that he loved Usagi? Why did Motoki keep toying with Usagi if he knew she loved Mamoru?

Face it, Sailor Moon; no matter how much you love Mamoru or the love he and Usagi EVENTUALLY had, no amount of conjecture can conjure up any shred of evidence for a love the two had for each other BEFORE the revelation of the ginzuishou. They hated each other at worst, and at best, were good friends. They didn't want to sit next to each other when that artist girl wanted to paint them; would people with hidden feelings for each other feel that way? No; they would be shy, but would want to be next to each other. There is never any mention in ANY version that the two shared anything more than a mutual friendship. If you can point me to a direct quote, I will retract my statement, but I can guarantee you that what happened between them was a developing relationship that didn't manifest as love until the beginning of the Black Moon Arc of R. I'm sorry for sounding so harsh, but you really, REALLY need to separate your fanaticism for these two characters from the facts that are presented in the show.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:00 pm

Starscream, I don't think that the issue with Chibi-Usa's Silver Crystal is whether she loves Usagi or not. I'm pretty sure she has one because she's the successor to the Sailor Moon powers, and thus needs the Sailor Moon crystal.

However, it is interesting that for her crystal to appear, she needed to remember that she was loved by her parents, who are Usagi and Mamoru's future selves.

I'm not trying to side either way on the "Did Usagi and Mamoru love each other before they found their past or not?" question because I'm undecided at the moment, though I might get an opinion on it later. I like their love as it is in the later seasons, but I'm undecided on the first.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:03 pm

Rainbow: It was the quote "Only the tear of true love can summon the ginzuishou" that got me. That wasn't the case with Chibi-Usa (who had "the ginzuishou", not one of her own), nor was it the case when Usagi got it back in the beginning of R. She didn't have to cry then; it magically reappeard for her.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:09 pm

Starscream wrote:Rainbow: It was the quote "Only the tear of true love can summon the ginzuishou" that got me. That wasn't the case with Chibi-Usa (who had "the ginzuishou", not one of her own), nor was it the case when Usagi got it back in the beginning of R. She didn't have to cry then; it magically reappeard for her.

Hmm, then I'm undecided on the main issue, but disagree with Sailor Moon on that one point.

Back on the topic, I'm not sure whether I think some of the dub songs were effective or not. And the reason for this is it's not only been a while since I watched the DiC dub, so I don't remember much about them. I have listened to the songs on a CD I have, but while I like the songs, it's hard for me to imagine them with their respective dub scenes.

Sailorasteroid · Post by **Sailorasteroid** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:19 pm

Forgive me for playing Sailor Moon's advocate here, but it's possible, by no means definite, but possible, that all the bad blood between Mamoru and Usagi was in fact the rudiments of their love. Mamoru's derogatory remarks on Usagi's tests and clumsiness might be his way of recognizing her special qualities, and her seeming hatred of him might be her reluctantly recognizing that she needs a strong controlling authority. I have read of loves that have begun this way; an example that leaps to mind is Dor and Irene in Piers Anthony's Centaur Isle. Indeed, I have experienced love with people who started out as rivals, and it is out of the rivalry that the love grows. It may be a semantic issue--it all depends on how you define love, which is a subject the philosophers have worked on for ages.

Nonetheless (*grabbing the steering wheel and swerving the topic back toward the on-ramp*), My Only Love did put the focus of the scene it was used in on the people instead of the crystal, and gave the episode a sense of climax. Maboroshi no Ginzuishou made it seem more of a transition episode. Which it is is open to debate.

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:25 pm

Sailorasteroid: Rudiments, yes. But "My Only Love" implies that the two have been in love since they first met, and Sailor Moon's argument does the same. They don't have the same loving feelings before the revelation of the ginzuishou that they do afterwards. If so, they would NOT behave the way they do in the beginning of the series.

Anyways, I've unfortunately taken this thread WAY off topic. If anyone wants to continue the debate, they are free to make a new topic about it. Again, I apologize for diverging this thing as much as it has, but let's get back on topic ^^;;

Parallax · Post by **Parallax** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:10 pm

OK, I liked "Only A Memory Away" (both the CD version and the TV version), "Oh Starry Night", "My Only Love", "Rainy Day Man".

RattleMan · Post by **RattleMan** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:49 pm

EDIT: Never mind this post altogether. Can someone please delete this post?

Tempest · Post by **Tempest** » Thu May 20, 2004 9:56 pm

RattleMan : The thread is about Dubbed song you felt were effective in the course of the series, not your favorite Sailormoon songs.

RattleMan · Post by **RattleMan** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:37 pm

Tempest wrote:RattleMan : The thread is about Dubbed song you felt were effective in the course of the series, not your favorite Sailormoon songs.

Yeah, I know the topic

Those are both the songs I like AND the songs I think were most effective. =P

Post by **Tiff** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:41 pm

RattleMan wrote:
Those are both the songs I like AND the songs I think were most effective. =P

All you stated in your post is "I like". You didn't state why they were effective. Please don't try to bullshit your way out of this.

I'm not in the mood for pettiness tonight.