Please tell me this isn't real -_-

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:37 pm

Oh, dear Chibi-Usa-sama!!

1) Some of these comments are OBVIOUSLY from homophobes.
2) God did NOT give the Senshi their powers, not the Christian god, at least. Queen Serenity gave them their powers. Usagi probably prays to "kama-sama" but her specific religion is never stated. Knowing Usagi, she probably sees "God" as love itself. And her fights with Rei stem from their personality differences, not their relgious differences (if they have any). Haruka, who is a lesbian, is shown wearing a cross more than Usagi is, too. If anyone's a Christian, it's her, not Usagi.
3) As for the seasons having to do with religions, S has some Christian elements, but none of the others do (it's not about wicca, idiot!).

And just because Haruka, Michiru, and the Starlights are on the show, it doesn't mean everyone has to like them or approve of everything they do to watch it. I still watch the show, even though Seiya annoys me a lot; I don't let my dislike of certain characters ruin my favorite anime.

Slrjoecool · Post by **Slrjoecool** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:53 pm

O_o;;;

Baka peoples... putting next to no research into this.... *mumbles to self*

peachvampiress wrote::Rei is meditating before that fire thing in her temple:
:Usagi sneaks in with a bottle of Holy Water:
Usagi: "The Power of Christ Compels You!The Power of Christ Compels You!"
Rei (pissed off because she's wet) "Usagi what the Hell are you doing!?"

LMOA! That's great...

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:53 pm

marspeach · Post by **marspeach** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:12 pm

Thanks for the link! I read that same page last spring but forgot what the address was. Now I can reread the stupidity. "The majority of Japanese" had become Christian by the 90s? So does about %1 equal a majority? And supposedly Usagi is a Christian too? Rei's religion is the only one actually known. And anime has, GASP, "gayness" in it? Like real life? Protect our kids from these evils! S has the most blatant Christian elements in it, with the Messiah story, but please. I think the dumbest thing was how someone claims Usagi is "worried" that Rei will go to hell or something.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:21 pm

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Tue Dec 30, 2003 11:37 pm

WTF!? And having male crossdressers in skimpy clothes is a bad thing? PROTECT THE BISHOUNENS!!

*falls over due to the wieght of many, many sweatdrops after reading that*

The comment about the kind of SM stuff you could find on the internet was right, though -_-;;

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:02 am

Cardcaptor Takato · Post by **Cardcaptor Takato** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:03 am

peachvampiress wrote:
:Rei is meditating before that fire thing in her temple:
:Usagi sneaks in with a bottle of Holy Water:
Usagi: "The Power of Christ Compels You!The Power of Christ Compels You!"
Rei (pissed off because she's wet) "Usagi what the Hell are you doing!?"

Lol, that was great! I wanna use that as my signature quote! Do you mind if I quote you? That's the most craziest hilariousness I've seen in a long time. They're was only one person's who's review wasn't half-bad and that's this one person said something like "if you're gay, you're gay, if you're not, it doesn't matter" and that was the nicest thing I read in that whole review. The person who said that was also contradicting what the first person who reviewed said. The first review said that %90 of all Japanese are Christian and then this person sai that only about %1 were Christian, which is probably more accurate. It's stupid how they insist that Ms. Naoko Takechui is Christian. Isn't she Shinto herself? I'm pretty sure she's not Christian. I'd be surprised if she was, though. I felt that report to be pretty insulting because I'm Christian myself but I don't think like that. It's ridiciolous.

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:10 am

"Almost all anime has at least some gayness in it. In Sailor Moon it is Michiru and Hichiru (English Michelle and Amora)."

"Hichiru"??? lol

Anyway a lot of that was horrible. I don't understand some Christians but I don' t really care.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:14 am

Jed-kun · Post by **Jed-kun** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:24 am

I didn't see any problem with most of these people ('cept for some REALLY bad reaserch), however, the "Avoid" people, OH! There are no words, only gutteral noises of disgust.

DreamEmpress · Post by **DreamEmpress** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:02 am

I just got through reading that article. *faints*

Ok, people obviously watch a little of it and then try to piece together the research after probably 10 minutes of reading about it.

I have a question....do these people really watch very much anime, because they are talking about it in such general terms.

I'm christian, but I don't look at anime as evil and to be avoided. Believe me, if I did, I wouldn't be in here. That article was just insane.

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:32 am

*raises eyebrows*
Hrm. I've read similar "articles" and "reviews" such as this one...and what bothers me the most is not these peoples' opinions, becuase they are entitled to them as much as you and I, but the fact that these opinions are based largely on faslehood. Granted, a lot of these opinions are valid: Yes, there are lesbians, yes, there is "crystal power" and gender-bending, and yes, Fisheye is a man. But it seems very sad to me that a lot of these people don't bother to actually watch more than two episodes or do large-scale research for posting things such as this. But I refuse to pick apart these peoples' opinions, becuase all in all, they have the right to say these things. I don't agree with a lot of it, but..*shrug* I didn't make the show; therefore, it doesn't bother me all that much.

J Anderson · Post by **J Anderson** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:17 am

I honestly think the only Christian character even in the show was the priest that Ziocite turned into Boxsy. There was also the nun from Diana's first episode... still, a vast minority compared to all the characters in all 199 episodes(the clip show doesn't count). If anything, most of them are Shinto even if we rarely see them practice.

But it's not as if America has a vast majority of "openly religious" cartoon characters(ignoring Simpsons, South Park, or any "prime time" adult-oriented cartoon). Linus is the only one I can think of that's Christian. Ron Stoppable is Jewish, apparently, but even the one episode we learn it never uses the word "Jew", just "bar mitzvah".

Neo Dead Moon · Post by **Neo Dead Moon** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:29 am

It's like CAPAlert all over again, except without any of the research or accuracy of that amusing (depending on your prespective) site. As a Christian who doesn't find Sailormoon offensive, I can safely say that the person who worked on this article is a moron.

And the Doom Tree arc is from R, NOT Classic!

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:37 am

Hey, maybe you Christians who like Sailor Moon/anime in general should make a special site for it. Of course, that could get other Christians mad at you...don't want to start an anime-based religious war over the Internet! I just thought so that people would know that it's okay to like Sailor Moon AND be a devout Christian. I wouldn't join it, being an proud atheist myself, but I would certainly like the idea (of course, it WOULD be a Sailor Moon site).

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:09 pm

Neo Dead Moon wrote:As a Christian who doesn't find Sailormoon offensive, I can safely say that the person who worked on this article is a moron.

And the Doom Tree arc is from R, NOT Classic!

That's debateable, and can be intelligently argued to be from either season.

And the only people that are morons are the ones who didn't research their background information. The people whose opinions were valid (for example: wanting to avoid the show becuase of lesbians. THAT'S THEIR RIGHT.) are NOT morons, but people who disagree with you.

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:17 pm

I actually thought this was a very good article. Yes, there were a few inaccuracies. But, it was very informative. Some of the people managed to put a great deal of research into their section. Some didn't, but for the most part, it was very well-written. It explored the pros and cons of the show, explaining different things that some Christians may object to (homosexuality, different religions, etc.). The article even spoke of how Sailor Moon was a very good show. They mentioned the "Sailor Says" segment from the DiC dub, which was a good thing for it's target audience--children. I may disagree with some points in the article, but all in all, I'm happy that it promoted the show, rather than bashing it. I don't see why everyone keeps pointing out the bad things in the article. Let's just be happy that they didn't claim that Sailor Moon turns kids to Satanism.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:19 pm

I think that article (or should I say, collection of opinions) shows PRECISELY why DiC and Cloverway implemented the changes they did (weird attack name changes aside). Especially since someone mentioned Sailor Moon being bad for having characters die.