Things that annoyed you in general

Crecent beam · Post by **Crecent beam** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:47 pm

Rainbow wrote:One thing that always makes me go "GRRR!" at the screen is when Haruka and Michiru are shown with that "wooo....wooo" music. That's because the music makes me feel like it's saying "These characters are perfect and graceful and so wonderful!" quote]

Yes, sometimes it can be irritating. Though it was very funny when they used it in episode 102 since it turned the scene into a caricature.

Another thing that bugs me is how the attacks are manipulated so conveniently. For example in SMR sparkling wide pressure almost killed that enormous dragon, but in SMSS it can't even stop a flying lemures. This was done for plot needs, so that Usagi could getMoon gorgeous meditation.
Another instance: in ep. 79 burning mandala created a huge fire column, while later on it was just a few miserable fire rings which often failed against the enemy for plot reasons.

Or, even worse, the soldiers frequently simply stand there waiting to get beaten up, so that a new character can come and save them.

Also, when they fight, something like this usually happens: "Venus lovely chain ! Shine aqua illusion !" There is no effect. "Oh my God ! There is nothing we can do !!!"

But of course they wouldn't try something more powerful, would they ?

Well, that's all for now.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:47 pm

Maybe that experience made her think they ALL had to be weakened first?

usachan · Post by **usachan** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 2:50 pm

Rainbow wrote:Maybe that experience made her think they ALL had to be weakened first?

Perhaps, but the monsters in the first season were not so retarded. It makes sense that some of THOSE monsters might need weakening, but later on the series the monsters are just sad.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 5:16 pm

NameGoesHere wrote:
Starscream wrote:Personally, I found the shift in attitude of the monsters-of-the-day - from scary looking and overly violent to goofy looking and acting silly - to be a major annoyance. It was hard enough to take the show seriously at times, but when the enemy is a giant shoe, I just can't help but sigh and shake my head.
I agree. That whole scene in SuperS where Sailor Moon is protecting Mamoru from the giant balloon lemure is a good example of when the silliness of the monster completely ruined it for me. It is supposed to be a very emotional scene of Sailor Moon showing her undying love, but it's impossible for me to take things seriously when the bad-guy is a goofy balloon woman.

If that scene had been done with a monster more like, say, Morga from episode one, it would have been so much more effective.

Several of the sillier monsters actually worked for some episodes, but as the show progressed, it became too common in my opinion.

Maybe I should look at the scene again that you were talking about. I found the scene very emotional but there was some humor before Sailor Moon protected Mamoru from the balloon woman. I think the change of the "monster of the day" from being scary looking and violent to being goofy sets up a nice balance between a serious tone to a comedic tone and it sets up the balance on the TV show as a whole. Sailor Moon has a balance of seriousness, comedy, drama, mystery, etc. The first season had more serious monsters and Morga was probably the scariest ones which some fans may agree on. But even though in Sailor Moon S, the villains and monsters of the day were silly and goofy, they were still set on their goal to get the talisman and the holy grail to give to the Messiah of Silence.

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 1:09 am

I don't quite think so- the monsters in the Stars season were totally off wheras the season should have been dramatic. Since it would be the final season and there would be the final showdown between Moon and Chaos. I've found that to be silly.
But when it comes to the fourth season, I agree with you ^^

Butterscotch · Post by **Butterscotch** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:40 pm

One thing that annoyed me was that everything was in some way, shape or form connected to the enemy, yet no one ever noticed a pattern.
Whenever a new store had a sale, it was the enemy.
Whenever a new idol became popular she was targetted by the enemy.
Whenever something suddenly became all the rage at school, it was the enemy.
Whenever...well you get the idea.

Once in a while, in the early seasons, Luna would "get a bad feeling" about these things, but this seemed to become less common later on.

You'd think by S or SuperS, they'd begin to make the association.

Post by **Tiff** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 10:49 pm

Butterscotch wrote:One thing that annoyed me was that everything was in some way, shape or form connected to the enemy, yet no one ever noticed a pattern.
Whenever a new store had a sale, it was the enemy.
Whenever a new idol became popular she was targetted by the enemy.
Whenever something suddenly became all the rage at school, it was the enemy.
Whenever...well you get the idea.

Once in a while, in the early seasons, Luna would "get a bad feeling" about these things, but this seemed to become less common later on.

You'd think by S or SuperS, they'd begin to make the association.

XD Everytime a new store opens in our town, Derek and I are convinced it's the dark kingdom. *nods*

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:44 am

Well, from the beginning of the series to the end of the series it has only been 2 years their time. Plus, in S and Super S the enemies didn't really start stores, they just kinda went the easy route and attacked previously owned establishments.

I do think this would have made other things Eudial did especially funny if she opened a store...

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:52 am

Panda wrote:I do think this would have made other things Eudial did especially funny if she opened a store...

Eudial's Secret? x]

EDIT: One other thing that seemed to annoy me... In the first episode of Sailor Moon, Naru tells Usagi how Sailor V stopped a bunch of robbers from robbing a bank. Why is it that Sailor V doesn't make an appearance to fight the other youma?

I personally think it would have been interesting for Sailor V to show up at the same youma battle Sailor Moon was in, and have Moon and V be all "wait a minute, who's this??" Then, when they all meet Sailor Venus for the first time, Moon could have been all "Wait a second... She looks familiar somehow!"

Just a thought...

Cardcaptor Takato · Post by **Cardcaptor Takato** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:37 pm

One thing that really annoyed me about the episodes was how Toei had no respect with regards to spoilers in their episode titles. As much as I love those episodes, I think episodes 45 and 46 could've been even more impactful if the episode titles didn't give away the whole plot and Toei was like this with the rest of the series' episode titles, too. >>

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 3:51 pm

Yeah, that makes sense. But I think they do that because the majority of the Japanese fans has read the manga and knew what would happen. Just a guess, I've heard similar complaints about DBZ.

On-Topic:

I really wish the senshi could be more realistic and in-depth sometimes. Like... I dunno. It just seems they are to optimistic sometimes considering their situation (I haven't read the manga, keep that in mind.)

_Alexander_ · Post by **_Alexander_** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:35 pm

Cardcaptor Takato wrote:One thing that really annoyed me about the episodes was how Toei had no respect with regards to spoilers in their episode titles. As much as I love those episodes, I think episodes 45 and 46 could've been even more impactful if the episode titles didn't give away the whole plot and Toei was like this with the rest of the series' episode titles, too. >>

I agree! I really hate it. It's lucky that I didn't watch the Japanese version first.

(Our version, the Swedish, named episode 45 "Sailor Moon and death", it still contains spoilers but I was too young to understand.

) Anyway, they should have named them something else, they spoiled episode 24 (Naru's Cry! Nephrite Dies for Love) big time. And oh, I wonder if ep 20 has a ghost in it when it's name is "The Summer! The Ocean! Our Youth! And a Ghost, too!"

Musashi · Post by **Musashi** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:08 pm

Naaah, everyone knows Beryl is attacking through the weather, Tiff!

Also, maybe Sailor V was too busy catching robbers to go after youma? xD

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:44 pm

Panda wrote:Yeah, that makes sense. But I think they do that because the majority of the Japanese fans has read the manga and knew what would happen.

Except that the Sailor Moon manga is drastically different from the anime. Granted, the Inners die at that point in the manga too, but the circumstances are considerably different....

Also, must they really remind Sailor Moon that she'll die if she uses the Silver Crystal EVERY DAMN TIME she does? It's especially noticeable in the movies...

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 5:54 pm

One other thing that seemed to annoy me... In the first episode of Sailor Moon, Naru tells Usagi how Sailor V stopped a bunch of robbers from robbing a bank. Why is it that Sailor V doesn't make an appearance to fight the other youma?

Well, if I remeber correctly in the Sailor V manga, she did stop a few crooks, and criminals. Maybe the writers were making reference to that?

Cardcaptor Takato wrote:One thing that really annoyed me about the episodes was how Toei had no respect with regards to spoilers in their episode titles.

Yeah. Toei has had a big problem with this starting around the 90's. (When they started the whole two sentence long episode titles) They also have a nasty problem with spoiling stuff in next episode previews.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 9:05 pm

Dinozore wrote: Also, must they really remind Sailor Moon that she'll die if she uses the Silver Crystal EVERY DAMN TIME she does? It's especially noticeable in the movies...

OMG!

I know... I swear they think Usagi is a fucking retard...

I mean... damn, at the point they're at wouldn't it just be better if Usagi died for Earth (I mean... she'll come back anyway.

)

usachan · Post by **usachan** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:25 am

Panda wrote:
I mean... damn, at the point they're at wouldn't it just be better if Usagi died for Earth (I mean... she'll come back anyway. )

Seriously! She knows she is going to die, but what she knows that they haven't seemed to learn yet, is that she always comes back! lmao

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:51 am

We are really lucky that Usagi always comes back. If she died and never came back, then Chibi Moon would take the role of the leader. Oh how the people of Earth would regret THIS!

At least, Earth isn't doomed in advance xD

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:13 am

Kasumi wrote:We are really lucky that Usagi always comes back. If she died and never came back, then Chibi Moon would take the role of the leader. Oh how the people of Earth would regret THIS!

At least, Earth isn't doomed in advance xD

But Chibi-Usa wouldn't exsist if Usagi died. ^^;

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Tue Aug 08, 2006 5:25 am

No, of course xD;; Logical problems today... maybe because I'm WAY too tired?? ^^°
(*brain to Kasumi, brain to Kasumi: Making excuses again?*) ^^°°°