Things that annoyed you in general

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 10:06 pm

bioengineer wrote:Another thing that annoyed me in general was why does it have to be Usagi the one to land the fatal blow to the monster? Are the Senshi not powerful enough to destroy monsters?

In the manga, the other Senshi kill most of the non-boss villains (including most of Beryl's generals and 2 of the Amazon Trio)...

laffinizluv · Post by **laffinizluv** » Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:43 pm

I think they had Sailor Moon do the majority of the ass-whooping in the anime so that she looked stronger and so that it would be more obvious who the strongest senshi was. Since in the anime Usagi matures at a considerably slower pace than manga Usagi and because the other senshi (cough*rei*cough) were regularly questioning her ability as a leader I think they needed way to draw out this pecking order without having to mess with all the details.

I mean, how lame would Sailor Moon look in the anime if her leadership was constantly questioned and the other senshi took out villians by the same numbers if not more than she did?

Iced_Cappucino · Post by **Iced_Cappucino** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:17 pm

I never understood the point of tuxedo mask.

Sailor Moon: Oh no what can I do a monster is attacking?

Tuxedo Mask: (Throws rose) don't worry sailor moon you can do it, take care of this villain.

Sailor Moon: You're right (kills villain)

what the hell?

All he does is throw a flimsy rose and tell sailor moon she can do it. Good grief I could do that.

SailorStarfire07 · Post by **SailorStarfire07** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:25 pm

Eh, sometimes he posed a decent distraction for the villain away from Sailor Moon to the random dude in a cape. Sometimes he was pointless, other times he served as a distraction.

Senshi_of_Vision · Post by **Senshi_of_Vision** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:33 pm

That was one of my serious peeves with the show besides changing Mars. I understand they wanted the female heroes to come off strong but the whole Tuxedo Kamen only throwing roses and having little to no powers in the show sucks after reading the manga. Him having powers complimented Sailor Moon and the others, he could help more when things got too rough. And sometimes his speeches annoyed me sometimes I thought if only one of them youma would just knock his butt out of the way sometimes while hes talking.

I also hated the way they handled his whole being taken over by the Dark Kingdom. In the anime he was more of a ally to the Senshi as a bad guy then someone to fear. And I guess you can try to say it was his conflict of being in love with Sailor moon but if you do that you have to ignore the fact that he constantly treated her like crap. In the books he was so cold I liked the evil Mamoru alot better in his original form.

Water Knight · Post by **Water Knight** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:19 pm

The mood of the episode (usually the last in the series) is always killed when the episode goes to the eyecatch and even the ending song can kill the mood.

I was always annoyed by the "filler episodes." They always seem to happen the same way.

Random person goes through midlife crisis
One of the characters randomly meets them
Person is targeted for their pure heart, dream mirror, etc.
Sailor senshi show up to stop the villian
Villian always says "I'll leave the rest up to you!" and leaves as soon as Sailor senshi arrive
Sailor senshi, usually Moon, defeat enemy and midlife crisis is solved
Random person is never mentioned again

It's even worse in SuperS, where Chibiusa meets up with complete strangers and somehow always wants to help them out. Not only that, but Usagi is always with her as mentioned before.

Senshi_of_Vision · Post by **Senshi_of_Vision** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:52 pm

K to play abit of devil's advocate to the whole "Anti Filler Episode" sentiment, yeah I agree there were a few pointless ones, but without them the stories would have went fast for many people. I just hate that especially towards the third series that "Fillers" seemed to dominate the storyline instead of the core plot. Im all for filling out a story maybe giving new characters a chance where they may not have fit into the set manga line. But id have liked to see fillers with characters that were actually in the manga as well.

And couldnt they have done one story surrounding Motoki? He was more then some darn arcade worker and more then just another victim for the various villians. He was alot smarter in the books to me as well, and I liked his attitude towards the Senshi, and how close he was with them in the manga. Stuff like that left out for as was said random people who got helped once only to dissappear and never be mentioned again kinda sucks to me.

Jared · Post by **Jared** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 10:04 pm

I was annoyed that the last three members of the witches five only got one episode each, especially when Eudial (who I found to be largely boring) got so many. Not to mention all of the others seemed to have more personality than Eudial as well.

On the subject of S, I also would've liked to have seen more Hotaru, although that's probably a result of me rushing through the last 10 episodes in two days, so it didn't feel like she'd been around for that long to me by the time I'd finished the season. It felt to me like S in general could've used a few additional episodes, though.

Water Knight · Post by **Water Knight** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:09 pm

Sailor Saturn makes a whopping total of 9 appearances in the anime... (more or less, I'm not entirely sure) I feel sorry for fans of the dubbed version, who only ever get to see Sailor Saturn in ONE episode! Sailor Saturn barely gets any sort of development and the major battle that she participated in gets overshadowed by Sailor Moon's participation. The battle between Pharoah 90 and Sailor Saturn should have been shown.

I was also annoyed in general because, by the third series, the Inner senshi just seemed so weak against enemies. They were more than capable of taking out regular enemies in the manga rather than having to rely on Sailor Moon and the Outers, not to mention having new transformations and attacks. Even Chibiusa, whose attack, Pink Sugar Heart Attack, was supposed to be as powerful as the other Senshi's attacks, gets neglected.

And, sadly enough, characters like Motoki, Umino, and Naru, practically disappear off the face of the Earth after the initial episodes of the SuperS series. In the Ami-chan's First Love special, Naru and Umino are only there for a few seconds, I believe. :/

Jared · Post by **Jared** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 2:19 am

I only just read about Saturn's rare appearances as noted in the above post. I was already feeling kinda 'eh' in regards to starting SuperS since it felt like a big step backwards to not have the outers around anymore, and then I read somewhere else that Hotaru does nothing important in Stars either, so that pissed me off as well.

It's pretty disappointing that Saturn does so little in general, really. I was expecting her to arrive earlier in S, which would have got on my nerves as well if I didn't love the final battle the way it was. A bit of a shame they didn't show the fight between Saturn and Pharoah 90, but ah well. Episode turned out great regardless so it didn't bother me as much as it could have.

Another thing that annoys me is how rarely the other Senshi get to beat the Monsters Of The Day. I remember back when Jupiter was actually shown to be stronger than the others she got to do it, but it really doesn't happen very often after that. It would've been nice to see them do it alone a few times instead of just softening them up for Sailor Moon.

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:10 am

Water Knight wrote:The battle between Pharoah 90 and Sailor Saturn should have been shown.

Yes, it should have, because it sounded badass...

SailorStarfire07 · Post by **SailorStarfire07** » Tue Jan 01, 2008 5:04 pm

I also hated that Saturn got little screentime. I expected to see her more in Stars but instead it was ALL about the Starlights and Usagi/Seiya. I mean they're great, but if you're going to have a ton of characters, don't you think it would be more fair to spread out the attention a little bit?

awesomeweirdo · Post by **awesomeweirdo** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:18 pm

I also hated that Saturn got little screentime. I expected to see her more in Stars but instead it was ALL about the Starlights and Usagi/Seiya. I mean they're great, but if you're going to have a ton of characters, don't you think it would be more fair to spread out the attention a little bit?

I think the reason why Saturn wasn't in very many Stars episodes is because of the Nehelenia arc at the beginning. Her attack, Silence Glaive Surprise, was made to be way too destructive, compared to the manga. That means the only attack she could use against a Monster of the Day would be Silent Wall.

One thing that annoys me is that Mamoru wears the same outfit way too much. His green jacket with a black shirt underneath got really old........

Also, I think the writers couldn't stand to have the Sailor Senshi kill very many villains after the first season. Sure, they killed a few besides Monsters of the Day, but not many. Most were killed by their fellow villains, their own devices, or they were healed.

I hated that Galaxia was possessed by Chaos. I think the writers were afraid of thinking about a villain that did all the horrible things she did by her own choices. No........of course not, she must be possessed.........ugh.

Also, the reform dance in R made me unsure whether to laugh or to gag......................

Senshi_of_Vision · Post by **Senshi_of_Vision** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:10 pm

Yeah another thing about Mamoru was in the anime they made him abit too much older then Usagi. I mean yeah now adays its not too far fetched for a college guy to chase a younger girl but I dunno many that would find 14 year olds attractive and have the same smarts as Mamoru was supposed to have (even if they were long lost lovers). In the manga he was only 3 years older I believe and went to his own prep school and had friends around the same age. And they talked more about his powers which he used to heal himself while playing sports. I couldnt stand the attitude they gave him in the anime basically this playboy smart dude who really didnt have much personality outside of being Tuxedo Mask.

And ive said it before but Setsuna's outfit aggrivated me they made her look like a old marm and she was the classiest of the bunch and the most mature. I honestly could not see someone who had "fashion designer" listed as one of her dreams dressing the way they had her.

And Hotaru sigh even if her powers as a senshi were supposedly limited to the defensive attack Silence Wall, or her Glaive attack there was still more to her then Saturn. It would have been nice to see her grow up with Haruka, Michiru and Setsuna in that country house, learning to play violin and learning to keep her powers in check. Stuff like that would have made for better filler in my book. They formed a family and it was very touching to read about.

Iced_Cappucino · Post by **Iced_Cappucino** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:37 pm

I agree, they seemed to shove Saturn into a dark corner until they needed her and even then it was just to allow us to sympathize with Usagi for trying to save her from Pharaoh 90 or to kill her.

rockable · Post by **rockable** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:16 am

What annoyed me by far the most about the series: the Starlights hogging the spotlight in Stars the entire time. Why were they in almost every scene and in every single battle?! I want to see the characters I CARE about dammit, not these guys and their stupid song repeated OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AARGH.
I think the series went downhill in the end anyway, I wish it had ended after the third series.

Mimete · Post by **Mimete** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:11 pm

I thought the Starlights were pretty cool.

Senshi_of_Vision · Post by **Senshi_of_Vision** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:17 pm

rockable wrote:What annoyed me by far the most about the series: the Starlights hogging the spotlight in Stars the entire time. Why were they in almost every scene and in every single battle?! I want to see the characters I CARE about dammit, not these guys and their stupid song repeated OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AARGH.
I think the series went downhill in the end anyway, I wish it had ended after the third series.

The starlights played an important part in the strry Rockable, not to say your position is wrong or your wrong to feel that way. But even in the manga their story told of the sailors who protected the galaxies and their own royal families. It was nice to see that others existed and about the only thing that bugged me was people kept insisting that Seiya and Usagi should be a couple, when its obvious who Usagi's heart belongs to. And its obvious (at least it was to me) that Seiya loved her princess more. And I loved Search for you love, I mean they were disgusing themselves as a band to find clues to where Kinmoku was so it was cool to see them preform cause you only see a page or two of it in the books.

rockable · Post by **rockable** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:41 am

Well, in the manga, they're just secondary characters. I'll never understand why the anime made them
a) male and
b) so important.
Seiya is practically the second most important character! And I loathed the interaction between him and Usagi. I don't know why they put that in-to appeal to little girls who dream of popstars falling for them and identify with Usagi or something?
The only one I kind of liked is Yaten (and he's also the only non-ugly one). Taiki I just found boring.
Just my opinion..no offense intended.

Iced_Cappucino · Post by **Iced_Cappucino** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 9:26 am

SoV, I also felt the same way about Seiya and Kakyuu. Much of the focus between the Starlights and Princess Kakyuu was focused on Seiya's reactions. For example, when Kakyuu dies, most of the emotion comes from Seiya.