Personality via Anime vs. Magna

CharmedFaith · Post by **CharmedFaith** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:35 pm

In Sailor Moon ofcourse we have our main cast the Sailor Scouts, Luna, Artemis, Tuxedo. Then we have the villans and background cast.

Who do you think got the best and worst translation from the Magna to Anime?

I disliked Mina's/Sailor Venus' personality change the worse. Since in the Magna, she was mroe mature and more leader like but she was far from that after her introduction in the anime. She just seemed like she was Serena v2.

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:32 am

It's manga. not magna. Manga.

otakugirl17 · Post by **otakugirl17** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:55 pm

I don't see much of a difference between manga Minako and her anime version except for the fact that the anime did not acknowledge Venus's leadership at ALL. They seemed to imply that Mars was the leader( don't have a problem with it since in PGSM Mars is Venus's subsitute, but that might not count).

The biggest personality difference I saw in the anime is Rei. The anime changed Rei from the cold mature, sophisticated man hating senshi to being at times immature, bitchy, and worst of all- BOY CRAZY like the other senshi minus Ami. I disliked that the most because that was what made Rei unqiue from the others. Ami is like this as well, but not to the extent of Rei's. I'm also a bit peeved that they changed Rei's dream from being a loveless miko to a romantic career woman making it seem like Rei HATES being a miko( manga Rei embraces her duties).

I also felt that the anime overexaggerated Usagi's ditziness. They made Usagi SO annoying that I almost HATED her until S when she began to start showing some maturity. In the manga Usagi matures A LOT after the first few chapters and is very tolerable. Even as Sailor Moon she fights better and takes her duties a little more seriously.

Mamoru is much more loving in the manga toward Usagi and doesn't treat her like a child instead of a lover like the anime portrays him. He is also younger in the manga and I don't know WHY the anime felt the need to make him a college student instead of a high school student. I would be very bothered if my 14-16 year old daughter was dating a college student. Wouldn't you?

The outer senshi are portrayed as being colder toward the inners than in the manga. They didn't make Usagi prove she was the princess and future queen. They were ignored( especially Saturn and Pluto) in the anime and played a MUCH bigger role in the manga even in SuperS/ Dream Arc.

Ami, Makoto, and Minako are the only ones I believe stayed true to the manga in terms of character. One more pet peeve before I stop, I feel that the anime made the Inners minus Ami in general to be WAY too boy crazy and act like they can't function without one( Makoto and Minako's are overexaggerated compared to their boy chasing in the manga). I actually thought that Usagi might cheat on Mamoru at times.

I feel that the anime should have kept the girls's personalities true to the manga instead changing. It's like I'm seeing 2 different characters. Off topic, but I've noticed Sailor Moon is the ONLY anime/manga series I've seen where the anime and manga are TOTALLY different to where it is 2 different stories. Most series usually have changes, but NOWHERE near to the extent of SM.

Those are who I felt got the worst changes. Sorry if it's long.

Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 2:28 pm

I agree with almost all of otakugirl17's points. But furthermore,

otakugirl17 wrote:Mamoru is much more loving in the manga toward Usagi and doesn't treat her like a child instead of a lover like the anime portrays him.

Yeah, very much. I HATED Mamoru in the anime (especially the dub... dear lord), in fact I wanted to bitch slap Usagi sometimes for staying with him. He treated her really badly, and definitely not like a boyfriend. But in the manga, I didn't really mind him.

otakugirl17 wrote:Ami, Makoto, and Minako are the only ones I believe stayed true to the manga in terms of character. One more pet peeve before I stop, I feel that the anime made the Inners minus Ami in general to be WAY too boy crazy and act like they can't function without one( Makoto and Minako's are overexaggerated compared to their boy chasing in the manga). I actually thought that Usagi might cheat on Mamoru at times.

True, and regarding Minako... and forgive me if I'm wrong, because it's been a while since I've both seen the anime and read the manga - didn't the anime completely ignore her whole "cursed to never find love again" thing from Sailor V? I think I remember the BSSM manga touching back on that, and that was one of my favorite aspects of her character. Inside she was so lonely, and she wanted to find love badly, but she just couldn't, and it was hinted that Ace's curse was part of the reason. And yes, she still chased idols in the manga too, but by making her so boy-crazy in the anime I think they really took away from that depth of her character.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:19 pm

Sylphiel wrote:I agree with almost all of otakugirl17's points. But furthermore,

Yeah, very much. I HATED Mamoru in the anime (especially the dub... dear lord), in fact I wanted to bitch slap Usagi sometimes for staying with him. He treated her really badly, and definitely not like a boyfriend. But in the manga, I didn't really mind him.

True, and regarding Minako... and forgive me if I'm wrong, because it's been a while since I've both seen the anime and read the manga - didn't the anime completely ignore her whole "cursed to never find love again" thing from Sailor V? I think I remember the BSSM manga touching back on that, and that was one of my favorite aspects of her character. Inside she was so lonely, and she wanted to find love badly, but she just couldn't, and it was hinted that Ace's curse was part of the reason. And yes, she still chased idols in the manga too, but by making her so boy-crazy in the anime I think they really took away from that depth of her character.

Yeah, they made Mamoru such an ass in the anime. I adore his manga counterpart.

As for minako..they did have the episode where she thinks back to her days as Sailor V and her first love (I don't remember his name), but I believe that was it. That was the one true in-depth Minako episode there was.

Kasumi · Post by **Kasumi** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:47 am

The man's name was Alan. ^^
But you forget: That was the first season. And by the time, Minako's way way less ditzier than in the following seasons.
It seemed to me that the makers seemed to mock the "can't ever find true love" aspect of Minako with the two-timing thing episode. That was really the first time an anime character drove me up the wall. ^^°

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:06 pm

While I generally prefer the anime versions over the manga counterparts (especially with the Inners, they're much funnier), there's one that I do kind of have a problem with, and that's the way Ami was handled. In the manga, she was more of a Taiki-type character, more logical (or at least tried to be). I don't think the manga Ami would give up being a doctor for the sake of marriage like the anime one did. Nor would manga Ami ever be as ditzy and romantic as she was in episode 177. In fact, Ami NEVER gets in an argument with a colder scientist character (Taiki and Viluy in the anime) where she tells them they need to be more sympathetic/believe in dreams and romance. That's an anime-only thing.

Of course, this might also be my extreme bias when it comes to the infamous comet story and siding with Taiki so much.

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:48 pm

Rainbow wrote: I don't think the manga Ami would give up being a doctor for the sake of marriage like the anime one did.

Maybe I missed something, but when in the anime did Ami want to give up being a doctor?

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:50 pm

Rin wrote:
Rainbow wrote: I don't think the manga Ami would give up being a doctor for the sake of marriage like the anime one did.
Maybe I missed something, but when in the anime did Ami want to give up being a doctor?

o.O I'm trying to figure that out, too. The only thing I can even think of would be in S, when she spoke to Mamoru and said she was unsure abuot what she wanted to do in life. She said she wanted to be a doctor AND get married, but wasn't sure if she could do that.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:53 pm

In the story about her and Shingo at the beach (in SuperS) she says that she might give up being a doctor to raise a family.

At least so far as I remember, though, since it's been a while since I've seen that story I might be wrong.

Post by **Tiff** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:58 pm

Rainbow wrote:In the story about her and Shingo at the beach (in SuperS) she says that she might give up being a doctor to raise a family.

At least so far as I remember, though, since it's been a while since I've seen that story I might be wrong.

Ah, see, I haven't seen all of SuperS, so I haven't seen that ep at all.

Alexclow345 · Post by **Alexclow345** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:08 pm

Rainbow wrote:In the story about her and Shingo at the beach (in SuperS) she says that she might give up being a doctor to raise a family.

At least so far as I remember, though, since it's been a while since I've seen that story I might be wrong.

I watched that today and I don't think she was saying that. I was only paying half attention, though.

Anyway I like the anime personalitys more because everyone is so much funnier! ( Especially, Minako-sama)

Sailormars Obsessed fan · Post by **Sailormars Obsessed fan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:04 pm

I have rather unpopular views in regards to the anime vs the manga.

I consider them to be different universes, or alternate realities of each other. So what happens in one doesn't have to happen in the other. So if something happens in the anime that's not mentioned in the manga then it doesn't exist in the manga world and vice versa.

With this view I am more often able to enjoy both manga and anime versions even if one isn't even close to being true to the other.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:09 pm

Rainbow wrote:In the story about her and Shingo at the beach (in SuperS) she says that she might give up being a doctor to raise a family.

At least so far as I remember, though, since it's been a while since I've seen that story I might be wrong.

She says if she met a guy she was destined to she might chose a family insted of a job.

So yah, you were right.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:10 pm

Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote:I have rather unpopular views in regards to the anime vs the manga.

I consider them to be different universes, or alternate realities of each other. So what happens in one doesn't have to happen in the other. So if something happens in the anime that's not mentioned in the manga then it doesn't exist in the manga world and vice versa.

With this view I am more often able to enjoy both manga and anime versions even if one isn't even close to being true to the other.

I'm the same way, actually. Although this might come from my tendency to prefer the anime in general, and thus I like to draw my own conclusions about certain things (like how I think Chibi-Usa really IS a little kid in the anime and isn't actually 902).

Takanori-chan · Post by **Takanori-chan** » Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:28 pm

I think that most of the characters in the manga are not very developed, so it is hard to really compare them to the characters in the anime where each has plenty more attention on them. However, the Amazones Quartet (I think that's what they're called) play a larger role in the manga and their characters are a lot more interesting. Also the amazon trio play really small roles in the manga and were never meant to have much character (although the anime really tried and almost killed the series). In both cases the anime changed the characters quite a bit. (although it is possible that Naoko didn't have a clear sense of the characters herself in time for the writers of the anime to follow her lead.)

Dr. Casey · Post by **Dr. Casey** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:22 pm

Does manga Usagi treat Umino better than she does in the anime? I mean, in the show she's just super bitch to Umino, like when she makes a point of jumping on his back during the Tuxedo Umino Mask episode. I can't complain too much since it's funny and kind of hot, but at the same time I feel bad for the guy sometimes. In the episode where Umino saves Naru, she ignores him when they're all sitting on the bench even though she warms up to tons of other people over things smaller than what Umino did. It's weird.

the dooky · Post by **the dooky** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:00 am

Regarding the Umino thing, Usagi doesn't treat Umino too well in the very early episodes because Umino has a barely-disguised crush on her, and she's keen to keep him at arm's length. Umino also had a habit of disturbing almost everyone around him (Don't forget he was stalking Haruna at one point). Later on, she does warm up to him more, and goes out of her way to help him during the S season episode with the affection contest.

Dr. Casey wrote:I can't complain too much since it's funny and kind of hot

O.O

Anyway, the most favourable manga to anime transitions are those of the villains. Characters who appeared for just a single chapter of the manga (sometimes even just a few pages) were fleshed out into three-dimensional protagonists in the anime. Probably the only villain to get less development in the anime was Wiseman, and Beryl and Nehellenia got roughly equivalent treatment, but in every other case I can think of, the anime developed the villains better. In fact, this is one of the main reasons that I prefer the anime to the manga. Great characters like Crow, Siren, Fisheye, PallaPalla, Tomoe and Eudial were little more than cardboard cutouts in the manga.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:05 pm

One thing about the Sailor Moon series (anime--don't know too much about manga) as we get further into the series we see less of Umino & Naru. I know that they both appear in the Sailor Moon SuperS Special "Ami's First Love" and in at least in SM SuperS episode but they don't appear in the SM Stars season. Did Naru in one episode in the SMR season kind of figured out that Usagi was Sailor Moon?

DreamEmpress · Post by **DreamEmpress** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:34 pm

Personally, I feel that a lot of the senshi got a poor transition personality wise from manga to anime. Not that I feel the anime is bad. Because I love the anime, i just feel the characters would have been more interesting if they had stayed true to their manga roots.

Rei was really interesting in her silent, man hating personality. It made her really mysterious and more impacting when she would show kindness. I really wish we could have seen Casablanca animated. that was such a good background on her. Anime Rei was cute too, but I felt she was a bit overly mean at times. Even a bit too amibitous.

I feel Mako-chan was a bit sub dued at times. In the manga she was always talking about cooking and things. I really would have liked to see more of that side of her in the anime. It felt like the boy crazy thing was a bit over done.

Of course Usagi is more whiny in the anime, as previously discussed. And I fully agree about anime Mamoru. He was a jerk too often and I wanted to slap him into next week. I miss romanic manga Mamoru. It was cute seeing him get jealous.

Ok, here's one no one's mentioned. Chibi-usa! I think she got a really bad rap in the anime. (as in being annoying) In the manga, she starts out obnoxious and wanting to be like mom. She even clings to Mamoru a bit much. But she also is growing to accept Usagi and by the end of R, she and Usagi are crying about how much they'll miss each other. they have a way better relationship. Even in S and Supers she's a lot sweeter and even tries to help Usagi and Mamoru when they have a slight falling out. I love that in Stars she is quick to rush back to the past to help her mother and father. I find her to be more mature.

Anime Chibi-usa is more bratty and harder to like. She never seems to get past her clinging to Mamoru and even in Supers tries to annoy Usagi about it. Usagi and Chibi-usa have a fairly good bond, but it pales in comparsion to the manga. As the anime goes on, she just tries to act smarter and it gets under my skin.