Decent Sailor Moon dub VAs

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 2:01 am

Rainbow wrote: That's interesting. I've heard that Naoko orginally intended her to actually BE a gang member who smokes, but then later changed that, obviously. There is a possible remenant of this in one of the Chibi-Usa's Picture Diaries, Makoto is seen smoking a "chocolate cigarette," or so the MiXX manga I have says. Or does anyone know if that was a REAL cigarette in the original version?

There is no proof of that. I hate that theory, and until I see a translation of Naoko's words or some sort of proof, then I refuse to believe it. I've only seen that kind of information on horribly done webpages splattered with misinformation and bad "facts". Also, it IS a candy cigarette...I've seen translations of that page.

I would have loved to hear Lita actually say that with the voice they gave her

That would have been hilarious XD

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 8:14 am

Tiff wrote:
Rainbow wrote: That's interesting. I've heard that Naoko orginally intended her to actually BE a gang member who smokes, but then later changed that, obviously....
There is no proof of that. I hate that theory, and until I see a translation of Naoko's words or some sort of proof, then I refuse to believe it....

I agree...I think those translations are supposed to say that she was supposed to be tough and a loner, but not an ex-gang member.

Tiff wrote:
Starscream wrote:I would have loved to hear Lita actually say that with the voice they gave her :)
That would have been hilarious XD

Everyone should have gone through a "gansta" phase, but especially Artemis...he seemed the type.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:21 am

I never said I thought the theory was true or not. I just said it was something I heard and thought was interesting in relation to what you said, Tiff. I personally find a smoking Makoto hard to believe, mostly because if she DID smoke, wouldn't it be harder for her to be a Senshi?

Back on topic, I also like the voice of that animator (I think they dubbed her name as Lori), since she's got a Southern accent (yes, it's Rainbow rooting for the accents again).

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 12:36 pm

Rainbow wrote:I never said I thought the theory was true or not. I just said it was something I heard and thought was interesting in relation to what you said, Tiff. I personally find a smoking Makoto hard to believe, mostly because if she DID smoke, wouldn't it be harder for her to be a Senshi?

Back on topic, I also like the voice of that animator (I think they dubbed her name as Lori), since she's got a Southern accent (yes, it's Rainbow rooting for the accents again).

Rainbow, not everything I say is directed at you. I was saying I hated the theory, not that you believed it, so there's no reason to defend yourself.
As for the southern accent...it was horribly done. I live in Texas, and my god, nobody sounds like that. It was just BAD.

Everyone should have gone through a "gansta" phase, but especially Artemis...he seemed the type.

XD "Yo, Luna, you my biatch. Make me a sammich."

Starscream · Post by **Starscream** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:01 pm

I also have to give props to the narrator at the beginning of the Classic season...yeah, that scene was added in, but he did a good job with the narration. I have that opening sequence on MP3 somewheres around here, and it makes for a good introduction to one of my CDs.

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 3:30 pm

Starscream wrote:I also have to give props to the narrator at the beginning of the Classic season...yeah, that scene was added in, but he did a good job with the narration. I have that opening sequence on MP3 somewheres around here, and it makes for a good introduction to one of my CDs.

*nods* although DiC messed up a bit in the scripting of the narration, the narrator himself did a good job with it. I always did like the music in the background and the voice just made it seem like some mystical story.

Usagi04 · Post by **Usagi04** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:01 pm

I agree. His voice fit the scene well, it's a shame we didn't get to hear him any other time.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:28 pm

On the Makoto thing, I actually believed the "rumor" when I read it. So maybe I should've said that.

As for Lori's accent...I don't care if it's a poorly done accent (like Shampoo's on Ranma 1/2), I still like it!

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 4:35 pm

Rainbow wrote:
As for Lori's accent...I don't care if it's a poorly done accent (like Shampoo's on Ranma 1/2), I still like it!

I can't respect an accent that is completely off.

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 6:33 pm

Rainbow wrote: That's interesting. I've heard that Naoko orginally intended her to actually BE a gang member who smokes, but then later changed that, obviously.

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I'm not sure about the 'gang' thing, but I think she was going to be a smoker. Since in my artbook, there's a sketche of Mako-Chan smoking. And I remeber an OLD sketch (before Sailor Moon's time) also had Mako-Chan smoking.

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:30 pm

Umino wrote: I'm not sure about the 'gang' thing, but I think she was going to be a smoker. Since in my artbook, there's a sketche of Mako-Chan smoking. And I remeber an OLD sketch (before Sailor Moon's time) also had Mako-Chan smoking.

Again, I have seen translations that say it's a candy cigarette.

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:36 pm

Tiff wrote:Again, I have seen translations that say it's a candy cigarette.

With smoke coming from the cigarette? It seems to be just a normal cigarette. Anyway, I don't want to agrue over something so offtopic.

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 9:55 pm

Umino wrote:
Tiff wrote:Again, I have seen translations that say it's a candy cigarette.
With smoke coming from the cigarette? It seems to be just a normal cigarette. Anyway, I don't want to agrue over something so offtopic.

*shrug* I dunno. Like i said, I need proof. I have the artbook you're talking about, so I know exactly what you mean.
But yeah, let us return to topic.

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:42 pm

- Serena (BSSM, R - Terri Hawkes)
- Rini (R)
- Raye (BSSM, [most of] R, S, SuperS)
- Mina (BSSM, R)
- Lita (BSSM, R, S, SuperS)
- Ami (BSSM, R)
- Darien (BSSM, [most of] R)

Didn't care for the rest too much. Ikuko's voice was pretty good. So, I guess, Michiru/Neptune/Michelle's was too. Though the actress' delivery for Michiru/Neptune/Michelle was just crap. Haruka/Uranus/Amara's wasn't too bad, but again, the dialogue and the acting wasn't too great. The voice itself seemed fine to me, though. I don't remember Setsuna/Pluto/Trista's too well, so I can't comment. Her "the earth will not turn to ice, time will tell!" line in the S movie annoys the hell out of me, though.

I hated Hotaru's voice. sdfghksjdgdfk.

And Rini's original R voice was great, IMO. I loved the bratty sound. It suited her perfectly, I thought. The S/SuperS voice... ugh.

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:13 am

Tiff wrote:
Rainbow wrote:
As for Lori's accent...I don't care if it's a poorly done accent (like Shampoo's on Ranma 1/2), I still like it!
I can't respect an accent that is completely off.

OMG that accent was horrible. Her most memorable line was "Dehsparat tams caw fo dehsparat meashas, Cassie!" I also thought she was a dude until she started talking.

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 12:19 am

LadyFlameSniper wrote:
OMG that accent was horrible. Her most memorable line was "Dehsparat tams caw fo dehsparat meashas, Cassie!" I also thought she was a dude until she started talking.

LMFAO THANK you. Also, "Yah stahtahled meeehhh."
^^; I suppose we should get back on topic.

Rindesayu · Post by **Rindesayu** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:43 pm

Tracey Moore(first dub voice)was awesome as Usagi.She's no Mitsuishi-sama(as stated by a previous poster),but she practically nailed the role.Too bad she had to be replaced by the accursed actresses from hell known as Terri Hawkes and Linda Ballantyne so soon.

Besides Ami,the DiC Inner Senshi all got good voices as well,but Chibi-Usa's was god-awful,and "Raye's" second voice made her sound like even more of a bitch than before.The worst dub voice ever for a major character,in my opinion,was Luna's.Absolutely putrid.Why,oh why,did they have to make her a British nanny?(Boy,I'll tell ya,it ruined the S movie).Even "Molly's" horrid New Yorker accent is better than listening to Luna.I really liked the dub's portrayal of Umino,though,and Artemis' voice was okay,I guess.

And then there's Cloverway.An even worse "Amy",I must say,and the introduction of Linda Ballantyne...*shudder*.Lita and Raye still sounded good(Raye got her old voice back,of course),and Emilie Barlow(second Raye voice)does a much better Minako than Rei.Haruka and Michiru's voices weren't too bad,but the original Haruka was Megumi Ogata(my favorite female seiyuu),for cryin' out loud.Hotaru's voice was lovely,and all hail Stephanie Beard!(new Chibi-Usa)

Oops,forgot to comment on Mamoru.Like Usagi,he had three different dub voices--Rino Ramano,Toby Proctor,and Vince Corozza.Ramano was a little too jerk-y,and Proctor was suiting to the role but unable to really act,but I adored Vince Corozza.The voice itself was young yet sexy-sounding,and he really tried to put emphasis on his role.No offense,but I'm not really fond of Japanese Mamo-chan's 30-40-year old "manly"-sounding voice.

I'm sure I missed a few things,but those are the only opinions that were able to spring to mind at the moment.

Dinozore · Post by **Dinozore** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:52 pm

I just remembered a few:
Queen Beryl. I think her English VA did very well.

Professor Tomoe's VA was excellent, and he even had an appropriately creepy laugh for the role.

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:22 pm

Why is it everyone always prefers Stephanie Beard's Chibiusa? >_>

I hated that voice. Urgh.

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:44 pm

Shadow wrote:Why is it everyone always prefers Stephanie Beard's Chibiusa? >_>

I hated that voice. Urgh.

Well, to me personally, I think that Stephanie's voice really caught the cuteness in Chibiusa's voice, but not only that...it was the closest to a high-pitched Japanese voice. The first Rini was horridly nasal, and the voice just send shivers up my spine. Chibiusa isn't nearly as bratty as the first VA made her constantly sound. She made her sound like a little bitch, IMO. Chibiusa's character isn't truly like that.
Plus, Stephanie's voice is 100% natural. That's truly how she sounds, and that's a big plus for me.