The Problems with Sailor Stars

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:06 pm

#1SailorMoonFan wrote:^Yes, I believe you got everything right. I think it would have been dramatic to kill Galaxia, but since she wasn't ever truly evil, there was no need to.

Yep, Queen Galaxia was good and I don't think that she should be killed/destroyed--she deserved another chance. Chaos was the source of her being evil. I have a question: Is Chaos the source of ALL evil--Is he the reason why enemies such as Dark Moon Kingdom, Deathbusters, etc came to Earth with their mission to destroy it?

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:09 pm

Ummmmmmmmmmm I'm not 100% so please don't get mad if I turn out to be wrong. In the manga I think the Dark Kingodom, etc. were created in something called the Galaxy Cauldron. I think Chaos had to do something with it. I don't know for sure. In the anime, I think Chaos is the main evil, which is why I think it went into the hearts of everyone.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:15 pm

Thanks #1SailorMoonFan, you really helped alot!

Also we never get an image of what Chaos look like. I'll explain more about this a bit later.

I really love the Sailor Stars season and I don't find any problems with it--I'm satisfied with what they gave us. The ending of the series leaves us with many questions but I think that if we knew all of the answers, there wouldn't be that much discussions as there is now. What do you think?

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:17 pm

^I'm going to go research this. I'll get back to you when I find out for sure. The only bad thing of Stars that I have heard is that it seems to be copying all the other seasons and just mixing it into one. But this is the season I am really wanting to see.

EDIT: Here ya go:

It's discovered that Chaos is from the Cauldron, a place where all stars are formed, including all the Sailor Senshi, so in a way, Sailormoon is 'related' to all the enemies she killed previously. The enemies were, Chaos tells her, forms of herself who wanted Sailormoon's power from her ginzuishou.

EDIT again: That applys to the manga, not sure about the anime. So yes, all the main villians were connected to Chaos in the manga, I'm not sure about the manga.

And here is a pic and info on Chaos:
http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery;jse ... sbid=lc12a

sailorperkytoot123 · Post by **sailorperkytoot123** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:00 pm

I'm still confused about Usagi's star seed. If it is her Sailor Crystal then when she didn't have it she either had no star seed(which wouldnt make sense) or she had some other star seed that got replaced by the ginzuishou(sp?) which would be weird. Plus, in Silver Millennium, Queen Serenity had the crystal, so did she just give away her star seed? I mean, she did die, but that was because she used its full power. I don't know, I'm confuzzled.

Crecent beam · Post by **Crecent beam** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:17 pm

I think it's all a big goof.
We know the brooch Usagi wears is the Silver Crystal. Then in SMS they tell us that's her pure heart, and finally in Stars we are told it's her star seed.
So, I think that these three objects are separate things.

Umino · Post by **Umino** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:11 pm

Crecent beam wrote:I think it's all a big goof.
We know the brooch Usagi wears is the Silver Crystal. Then in SMS they tell us that's her pure heart, and finally in Stars we are told it's her star seed.
So, I think that these three objects are separate things.

When is it ever said her Pure Heart was the ginzuishou?

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:11 pm

Umino wrote:
Crecent beam wrote:I think it's all a big goof.
We know the brooch Usagi wears is the Silver Crystal. Then in SMS they tell us that's her pure heart, and finally in Stars we are told it's her star seed.
So, I think that these three objects are separate things.
When is it ever said her Pure Heart was the ginzuishou?

I don't think it was. She just had a pure heart like everyone else only hers was just stronger or something like that. So that's how she got through Pharaoh 90.

CharmedFaith · Post by **CharmedFaith** » Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:19 pm

they shouldnt have made the silver crystal her star seed since the silver crystal was most likely around before she was even born.

nap* · Post by nap* » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:32 am

The soliders didn't even attack Galaxia.

All we heard was ah,ah,ah,ah swoosh.

They could of at least attack her with a planet attack or their indivdual attacks from every season seing as that episode was the last ever episode where we see the inners transform and last time they transform together, to make it more memorable.

And they didn't insult Usagi like they always do.

Crecent beam · Post by **Crecent beam** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:02 pm

"When is it ever said her Pure Heart was the ginzuishou?"

You're right. They never said it, but I thought they meant it when in episode 125 Usagi's heart comes out of the brooch. But I was wrong after all.

"They could of at least attack her with a planet attack or their indivdual attacks from every season seing as that episode was the last ever episode where we see the inners transform and last time they transform together, to make it more memorable. "

You're completely right !
I was incredibly frustrated and depressed when I saw they did not fight (and the episode is called "sailor senshi's last battle").

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:03 pm

nap* wrote:The soliders didn't even attack Galaxia.

All we heard was ah,ah,ah,ah swoosh.

They could of at least attack her with a planet attack or their indivdual attacks from every season seing as that episode was the last ever episode where we see the inners transform and last time they transform together, to make it more memorable.

And they didn't insult Usagi like they always do.

That would have been much better if we got to see the Sailor Team continuously attack until they exhausted their powers. Then have Galaxia not even affected by their powers, and then have her kill them one by one. That would have made Galaxia much more of a badass than people make her out to be. I probably would have actually cried during that episode. By the end of stars I just kept thinking, why didnt the Sailor Team just stay home and let Usagi go naked and bring Galaxia back? I mean, the other senshi didnt even need to help her.

It would have also been cool to see Saturn and Pluto actually fight Uranus and Neptune and have them lose to them as opposed to just letting them kill them.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:07 pm

I think that if Sailor Stars was a much longer season with more episodes then things like you guys mentioned would have happened. But I appreciate Sailor Stars for what it is though. How many episodes does this season have? I think SM Classic have more episodes (46 episodes).

nap* · Post by nap* » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:15 pm

Also they should of had a special episode so we know how all the senshi get on during their future and find out how tokyo became crystal tokyo

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:15 pm

nap* wrote:Also they should of had a special episode so we know how all the senshi get on during their future and find out how tokyo became crystal tokyo

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Rin · Post by **Rin** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 1:18 pm

SailorMoonFan wrote:I think that if Sailor Stars was a much longer season with more episodes then things like you guys mentioned would have happened. But I appreciate Sailor Stars for what it is though. How many episodes does this season have? I think SM Classic have more episodes (46 episodes).

They could have used many of the filler episodes to do this, and a lot less talking during the final episodes.

sailorperkytoot123 · Post by **sailorperkytoot123** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:21 pm

Personally I give Stars credit for it's final episodes continuously flowing. They didn't stand around long periods of time threatining each other or they didnt spend time having them repeat patterns in attacks just to take up time. Every attack seemed to be one different thing after another. I liked that. It wasn't like Dragonball Z with Goku taking 5 episodes to attack once and then have it fail. God, I never really liked that show....

Another thing I have to mention is Galaxia. If I were Sailor Moon I could not take someone seriously who was dressed like that. I would burst out laughing.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:42 pm

I watched a little bit of the Sailor Stars season and I have to say it's a very emotional season. #1: I love the music played throughout the episodes and it's one the best in the whole series. #2: As you watch the Stars season thru the end, you know at the back of your mind that this is the last season and that there will be no more after this. #3: The final episodes flow very smoothly as was stated in another post. #4: Galaxia is one of the greatest & baddest enemies and was glad that she didn't die and turned good at the end.

DragonMasterZero · Post by **DragonMasterZero** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:31 pm

sailorperkytoot123 wrote:Another thing I have to mention is Galaxia. If I were Sailor Moon I could not take someone seriously who was dressed like that. I would burst out laughing.

Galaxia looks funny? Have you seen Sailor Moon? I'm surprised the villains don't die of laughter, its a fairly ridiculous outfit, and shes a 14 year old thats less than 5 feet tall. I dont think I could stop laughing if I saw her try to threaten me in RL

usachan · Post by **usachan** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:40 pm

Something I always wondered about, and this pertains more the manga than the anime, is I didn't understand how all the villians tied together. I really wish they had explained this in the anime because it is much easier to follow than manga translations are. There was just something that said that all the previous villians were related to chaos, and Galaxia. Did anyone else have a better understanding of this than I did?