Difference between inner and outer senshi

unkhato · Post by **unkhato** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:41 pm

I just learned in Science today that Jupiter is actually an outer planet. How come in Sailor Moon, Jupiter isn't with the outers? Is there any relationship between the order of the planets closer to the Earth, Moon, or Sun that relates the order of the senshi's meeting with Sailor Moon? This is a kinda pointless topic that probably won't last long but just curious. Also, did the maker of Sailor Moon know anything about astrology that she made this series up?

#1SailorMoonFan · Post by **#1SailorMoonFan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:43 pm

Probably not. Who knows? Maybe Naoka-sama just felt like having Mako with the Inners.

Sailormars Obsessed fan · Post by **Sailormars Obsessed fan** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:46 pm

I always thought it odd that Jupiter was considered an inner senshi when Jupiter the planet is an outer planet.

Maybe they were trying to make it even. 4 inners and 4 outers.

Isnt 4 like a special number in Japan or something?

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 7:55 pm

Actually, the term inner and outer senshi is just a fan term. They're never said in the anime or manga. In one of the S episode Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto refer to themselves as "Soldiers from the outer rim" but not outer senshi. Saturn technically couldn't be considered in that list because she wasn't supposed to be awaken being the "forbidden soldier"
The "inner senshi" are technically called the Sailor team.

In astrology Jupiter and Saturn were considered inner planets because they could be seen clearly from the Earth.

Sailormars Obsessed fan wrote: Isnt 4 like a special number in Japan or something?

Yes, it's actually their unlucky number. The japanese word for 4 is shi which is the same word for death. So it's considered rude to give someone a present that comes in fours and often on hospital rooms, the number four is skipped.

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:02 pm

XD Rin beat me to it. Yep, Naoko aknowledged that she never herself coined the terms "Inner" and "Outer" senshi.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 8:50 pm

Well, I remember reading somewhere (It might have been Wiki) that when Naoko started the Sailor Moon manga she wanted to make it a team of 5 (before she thought of the 'outers' I assume) so at that point it was okay to use Jupiter. And since it's a fan term anyway I guess it's not really a big deal. Just a tiny inconsistency.

*Panda's 2 cents*

jupiter23 · Post by **jupiter23** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:31 pm

unkhato wrote:Also, did the maker of Sailor Moon know anything about astrology that she made this series up?

As far as the astrology thing, I think she did know something about it. Each sailor soldier represents the planet that rules her astrological sign. That couldn't, in my opinion at least, have been some sort of coincidence.

peachvampiress · Post by **peachvampiress** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 1:44 pm

I heard that although Naoko never came up with the Inner and Outer terms, she liked them enough to use them in her notes in the manga, or something like that. Can anyone confirm this? I only have the Japanese reprints which got rid of her notes T_T

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:13 pm

Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, and Saturn refer to themselves as the Soldiers of the Outer Solar System.

I think.

Alexclow345 · Post by **Alexclow345** » Thu Jun 22, 2006 6:04 pm

I think that because Jupiter was introduced before Venus I consider Jupiter a part of the Sailor Team. But that's me.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:07 am

Slightly off topic:

Did anyone else notice that after the Outers were introduced the Inners fighting abilities kinda... started to suck a little. For instance, in the R movies when they are falling the Inners (except Moon) all do a little flip and land on their feet.... In the Super S movie all nine senshi are caught falling (from a shorter height...) and the Inners all fall and the outers land upright (and probably did a little flip to

)

So yah... what's the deal...

On Topic:

Considering that rant. Maybe they are the way they are because Naoko was afraid people would lose interest in the old one? Probablty Not...

Crecent beam · Post by **Crecent beam** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:29 am

"Did anyone else notice that after the Outers were introduced the Inners fighting abilities kinda... started to suck a little. For instance, in the R movies when they are falling the Inners (except Moon) all do a little flip and land on their feet.... In the Super S movie all nine senshi are caught falling (from a shorter height...) and the Inners all fall and the outers land upright (and probably did a little flip to )"

Yes, I noticed this kind of things too, and I didn't appreciate them at all. They were trying to convince us the inners are miserable, but I know it's not true of course.

CharmedFaith · Post by **CharmedFaith** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:00 pm

ya I also noticed that. I didnt get why the Outers powers were soo much stronger then the inners. The Innerscouts powers barely did anything to the enemy. The Inners were already in their second power up by the time the Outers came so they shouldve been around the same power levels.

Rin · Post by **Rin** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:42 pm

Panda wrote:Slightly off topic:

Did anyone else notice that after the Outers were introduced the Inners fighting abilities kinda... started to suck a little. For instance, in the R movies when they are falling the Inners (except Moon) all do a little flip and land on their feet.... In the Super S movie all nine senshi are caught falling (from a shorter height...) and the Inners all fall and the outers land upright (and probably did a little flip to )

That's one of the reasons why I prefer the first two seasons over the last three.

Alexclow345 · Post by **Alexclow345** » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:45 pm

In the last half of SuperS they are really talented as senshi or sco..sc..sCOutS. I said it. Woo Hoo

*Eternal Moon* · Post by ***Eternal Moon*** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:20 am

Panda wrote:Slightly off topic:

Did anyone else notice that after the Outers were introduced the Inners fighting abilities kinda... started to suck a little. For instance, in the R movies when they are falling the Inners (except Moon) all do a little flip and land on their feet.... In the Super S movie all nine senshi are caught falling (from a shorter height...) and the Inners all fall and the outers land upright (and probably did a little flip to )

I definetely noticed that. It seemed like once the outer senshi came on the show, the inners powers seemed to be very inferior to theirs. Even Sailor Moon and she's supposed to be the main character of the show as well as the princess. Shouldn't she have been the most powerful? At least more powerful than her court? But I guess they decided to make her seem a little less powerful because if she was the most powerful, then she wouldn't need a senshi team to protect her.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 12:57 pm

I don't think it was a problem of the Outers being more powerful than the Inners or Sailor Moon. I think it was retarded that they made the Outers seem more skilled/mature/superior to the Inners with tiny little things like jumping/falling/climbing/whatever when in the Classic and R season the Inners are just as skilled.

But since you mentioned power...

I think Sailor Moon is more powerful than her court. I don't have a problem with Sailor Moon falling when she's supposed to be landing because that's part of her character and to me it's what makes her as funky as she is. That being said, and I'm not trying to put-down Usagi, I did not like it when the Inners were pushed down to her level that way. To me it just made the groupings more definate and not a "Sailor Team" so to speak. It's the little quirks like that that seperate the Inners from the Outers.

otakugirl17 · Post by **otakugirl17** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:48 pm

I noticed that as well. As much as I like the Outers, I HATED how the anime made them out do the Inners in EVERYTHING, both as civillians and senshi. They were so perfect it was annoying at times. It was really bad in SuperS when the Inners couldn't even land on their feet when fighting. I also hated that scene in the SuperS movie. I expected Moon to fall, but not Mars, Jupiter, Venus, and especially Mercury who is known for being graceful. Also in the movie the Outers were able to take out the candy monsters when the senshi in their SUPER forms couldn't even do that.

In the S movie, the Outers took out the snow dancers in one hit all at the same time while the Inners had trouble with ONE and it took all four of them to do it.

In S, the Inners attacks were useless against the daimon and kept missing while the Outers are able to stun the enemy from attacking for a few minutes. Also they are much better dodgers than the Inners when in Classic and R they could dodge pretty good even Moon when she isn't running away.

I know the Outers are supposed to be stronger than the Inners, but the anime overexaggerated the Inners weakness. In fact the anime made ALL the senshi, but Moon weaker than they should have been. In the manga, the Inners AND Outers could take out youma WITHOUT Moon's help. In fact they killed major enemies like Jedaite unlike the anime where the senshi's attacks were useless.

That's one of the reasons I prefer the manga over the anime. The senshi are A LOT stronger in the manga and didn't GLORIFY the Outers to where it is annoying like the anime did.

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