Senshi Attack Names...Where are the Planets?

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Mon Nov 03, 2003 10:50 pm

I always guessed her element was the equivalent of Holy in the Final Fantasy games. So yeah light I guess

What are the Starlights' element? I'd say theirs is light too except none of their magic has healing properties.

Rainbow · Post by **Rainbow** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 6:18 am

Maybe their element is the stars, more specifically, these astronomical objects:
Fighter=two stars circling around each other in a close binary and ripping gasses from each other, like they are stars fighting
Maker=a protostar or the nebula in which it's formed
Healer=a supernova that explodes and brings healing, life-giving elements to the Earth (okay, maybe that's kind of far-fetched...it is so hard for me to find a real healing star!)

Jeff · Post by **Jeff** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:43 pm

I never thought all the Sailor Senshi represented the traditional elements. Mercury definitely represents water, and Mars fire... but that's about it. Jupiter in Japanese is "mokusei" or "Wood Star", and some of her manga attacks (as well as Oak Evolution) indicate a plant-related power. However she's also associated with lightning and electricity. Venus is rather sporadic as her attacks can either be purely random (Crescent Beam), or deal with her two associations: The Roman goddess of love Venus, and the Chinese (I think) element metal. A good example of her metal associations are her chain. I think that the "Venus" part in "Venus Love-me Chain" has less to do with her guardian planet, and more to do with the fact that Venus (AKA Aphrodite) is said to have had some kind of chain or rope which caused people to love the holder of it.

The rest of the senshi's associations are pretty well-known. Saturn represents death or the harvest, Uranus the wind/sky, Neptune the sea (not to be confused with water), and Pluto time/the underworld/who the hell knows she gets like 12 episodes. Sailor Moon states... in EVERY episode, that's she's the soldier of LOVE and JUSTICE. Gah, that was boring to write. Probably more boring to read.

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:39 pm

I never thought all the Sailor Senshi represented the traditional elements. Mercury definitely represents water, and Mars fire... but that's about it. Jupiter in Japanese is "mokusei" or "Wood Star", and some of her manga attacks (as well as Oak Evolution) indicate a plant-related power. However she's also associated with lightning and electricity. Venus is rather sporadic as her attacks can either be purely random (Crescent Beam), or deal with her two associations: The Roman goddess of love Venus, and the Chinese (I think) element metal. A good example of her metal associations are her chain. I think that the "Venus" part in "Venus Love-me Chain" has less to do with her guardian planet, and more to do with the fact that Venus (AKA Aphrodite) is said to have had some kind of chain or rope which caused people to love the holder of it.

Yeah the inner senshi represent the Asian elements water, fire, wood, and metal.

Mercury- water (Japanese for Mercury is suisei (litterally means water star)
Mars- fire (Japanese for Mars is kasei, means fire star)
Jupiter- wood
Venus- metal (Japanese for Venus is kinsei, means "metal star" Kin can also mean gold.)

Jupiter can use lightning/thunder like the Roman king of the gods Jupiter. The Roman god Jupiter is also sometimes associated with wreaths. The wreath is Sailor Jupiter's symbol for Jupiter Oak Evolution.

Venus has attacks related to love because Venus is the goddess of Love in Roman myth... what you basically said. [/quote]

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Sat Nov 08, 2003 7:32 pm

I agree that Moon is light too. If you really stretch it, you could say she's a holy elemental

Mercury's is ice, although technically it's water, I distinguish Mercury as ice to keep from confusing her and Neptune

Mars is fire

Jupiter is basically electric in the anime, but earth in the manga

Venus...I perceive her as being air...since there's 'fly on the wings of love' since i don't think love is an element.

Uranus is earth in the anime, but sky in the manga

Neptune is water

Pluto is a psychic elemental, due to the fact she's the Guardian of Time.

Saturn is darkness (the GOOD side of darkness)

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:58 am

Hmm I have to disagree with a lot of that and I know for sure some is wrong. This is what I think of the elements, not sure if it’s all correct.

Moon is light life or holy or whatever you want to call it.

Chibi Moon’s is probably the same as Moon’s but a weaker version.

Mercury has control over all forms of water, not only ice. So her element is water in general.

Mars is fire obviously.

Jupiter doesn’t have any earth based/related attacks….only wood and lightning.

Venus’ is metal, which was already discussed. If you consider love an “element” then I guess you could say she also uses love.

Uranus only really has air/space attacks. In the anime notice that World Shaking actually forms in the air and then she slams the attack into the ground. And even after the animation, many times it’s an airborne attack. In the manga she doesn’t even slam it in the ground. I also heard that the “world” of “world Shaking” is an abbreviation for “sky world” Space Sword Blaster has nothing to do with the earth either which is also in the anime. Space Turbulence is an air attack. Air also makes sense since Uranus constantly associates herself with the wind. And the god Uranus is the god of the heavens in Roman myth.

Neptune is also water but she exclusively uses the ocean

Pluto’s is time space and darkness. Time because Chronos Typhoon, Time Stop, Dark Dome Close, and Garnet Ball. Darkness because of Dead Scream. And she’s associated with the Underworld too

Saturn is death/silence. She’s also associated with the earth. Her last name’s kanji stands for “earth sprouted” and her planet name in Japanese means “earth star” Maybe that’s why she has to put her Glaive in the ground when she destroys a planet. Or maybe I’m looking into that too much :p She mentions rebirth a lot but she doesn’t seem to maintain her power to heal after S. And she doesn’t have actual powers of rebirth. I guess she means she’ll always be reborn with Sailor Moon’s power

Post by **Tiff** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:42 pm

LadyFlameSniper wrote:
Uranus only really has air/space attacks. In the anime notice that World Shaking actually forms in the air and then she slams the attack into the ground. And even after the animation, many times it’s an airborne attack. In the manga she doesn’t even slam it in the ground. I also heard that the “world” of “world Shaking” is an abbreviation for “sky world” Space Sword Blaster has nothing to do with the earth either which is also in the anime. Space Turbulence is an air attack. Air also makes sense since Uranus constantly associates herself with the wind. And the god Uranus is the god of the heavens in Roman myth.

I liked your breakdown, but what struck me is Uranus's. I never noticed that about World Shaking, but you know, you're right. That's very interesting. Thanks.

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:05 pm

Wow, I'll never look at World Shaking in the same way again! I always thought that was a ground-type attack...

BTW, when I say Jupiter has earth attacks in the manga, I'm referring to the grassy part of the earth elemental (Like Flower Hurricane and Coconut Cyclone)

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 2:07 pm

Oh okay. The grassy stuff like Flower Hurricane, Jupiter Coconut Cyclone and I guess even Jupiter Oak Evolution are supposed to be under wood though.

And you're welcome, Tiff ^_^

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:45 pm

Actually Jupiter Oak Evolution is both Electric and Earth, since the the leaves she fires are electrified

Sailor X · Post by **Sailor X** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:33 pm

Sailor X wrote:
Dinozore wrote:I'd say Sailor Moon's element is light...
No! NOOOO! That's my element, dammit! I think hers is purity- BUT NOT THE SOUL! That second part is from a Dumb/Stupid Rumor. And that part about love and justice, all the senshi say that they are soldiers of love, and Venus is definitely love, so that leaves Moon with Justice, which is a prettly bad "element."

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:56 pm

Could Pluto be a Psychic element? I mean, if you could see into the future and the past, that's a type of Psychic power.

Post by **Tiff** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:17 pm

Sailor Sapphire wrote:Could Pluto be a Psychic element? I mean, if you could see into the future and the past, that's a type of Psychic power.

But her attack has nothing to do with that.

Sailor Sapphire · Post by **Sailor Sapphire** » Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:36 pm

You're right...but as holder of the powers of time, she can theoretically stop it (although she is forbidden to do so) so she could just as well speed time up or slow it down.

It is safe to assume that Time and space is Pluto's element

Miyamoto · Post by **Miyamoto** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:48 am

Tiff wrote:
Anna Roz wrote:Anyone remember "Venus Love Chain!" "Venus Love Chain WHIP!" "Venus Love Chain HARNESS!" and in one episode just plain "VEEEENNUUUSS!" from CWI's dub. Poor Minako-chan, can't she remember her own attack name?
LMFAO. God, that's hilarious.
And let's not forget "Mars Celestial Fire Surround."
There's nothing Celestial about it..and she's not surrounding anything.

Isn't the original name for that attack "BURNING... MANDALA!!!!"? And I think the surrounding was suggesting that the fire was surrounding the enemy....

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:23 pm

Yes it's originally Burning Mandala ( I love how she says it BTW) and it doesn't surround the enemy. It surrounds *her* before she launches it in the full sequence...

A few times in the S dub she just says "Mars Fire Surround" o_O

ParaKiss_Groupie · Post by **ParaKiss_Groupie** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 1:50 pm

Sailor Sapphire wrote:Could Pluto be a Psychic element? I mean, if you could see into the future and the past, that's a type of Psychic power.

She doesn't see into the future or past, she just guards the gates of time. Her powers have nothing to do with the element mind.

As for Sailor Moon being Soul, I've always thought that. Soul isn't really an element, its just sheer power. Which would explain why she's always capable of destroying the enemy. However, if you really wanna get down into it, Sailor Moon has light, and the Ginzuishou gives her the other element. Moon Tiara Action was a light-based attack, and the Ginzuishou powered her up for her other attacks.

Miyamoto · Post by **Miyamoto** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 3:16 pm

LadyFlameSniper wrote:Yes it's originally Burning Mandala ( I love how she says it BTW) and it doesn't surround the enemy. It surrounds *her* before she launches it in the full sequence...

A few times in the S dub she just says "Mars Fire Surround" o_O

OK that's what I thought. And yeah I like how she says it too. She's like BURNINGUH... MANDALAH!!!!!!! lol And I seem to remember her saying Mars Fire Surround as well... Stupid dubbers..... If only they had done their research more carefully.... They could have come up with a better translation for Mandala...

Post by **Tiff** » Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:57 pm

ParaKiss_Groupie wrote:
Sailor Sapphire wrote:Could Pluto be a Psychic element? I mean, if you could see into the future and the past, that's a type of Psychic power.
She doesn't see into the future or past, she just guards the gates of time. Her powers have nothing to do with the element mind.

*nods* exactly. She's in no way psychic. The only way she's able to warn or inform sailor moon of things is because she's physically THERE, not because she can predict it.

LadyFlameSniper · Post by **LadyFlameSniper** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:08 am

Yep, only Mars is psychic and even she can't predict everything (obviously).