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by Lothos » Sat Aug 06, 2005 10:01 am
Well, I wonder why Luna has awakened Usagi as Sailor Moon in the present, since she never existed neither in the past (Usagi was Princess Serenity) nor in the future (Usagi will be Neo Queen Serenity). In the first season, Luna and the sailor senshi are looking for the Moon Princess who turns out to be Usagi.
Why did Luna awaken Usagi, that would mean that she already knew that she was the princess, or at least someone related to the moon kingdom.
Why didn't she awaken the four inner senshi first, and then search for the princess?

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by Aya Reiko » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:02 pm
Lothos wrote:Well, I wonder why Luna has awakened Usagi as Sailor Moon in the present, since she never existed neither in the past (Usagi was Princess Serenity) nor in the future (Usagi will be Neo Queen Serenity). In the first season, Luna and the sailor senshi are looking for the Moon Princess who turns out to be Usagi.
Why did Luna awaken Usagi, that would mean that she already knew that she was the princess, or at least someone related to the moon kingdom.
Why didn't she awaken the four inner senshi first, and then search for the princess?

Maybe Luna has swiss cheese for brains and forgot who the princess was, looked like, etc.
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by Lothos » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:25 pm
What I really mean is that she awakened Usagi, but as who? Sailor Moon? Sailor Moon NEVER existed on the Moon Kingdom.
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by the dooky » Sun Aug 07, 2005 10:35 am
That's a very good point. There doesn't appear to have been a Sailor Moon in the Silver Millennium era. However, it's interesting that Queen Serenity apparently had the same powers (she used Moon Healing Escalation). Maybe there was indeed a Sailor Moon back in the day, a distant ancestor of Queen Serenity? Given that it was a laregly peaceful time, there wouldn't have been any need for the Queen of the Moon Kingdom to be a warrior too, so perhaps the title was lost over the generations, although the powers remained.
Having said that, it's interesting that Luna didn't make the obvious assumption that Sailor Moon = Moon Princess... so yeah, I suppose her memory was quite messed up. The anime did point this out on a few occasions. When she got her memory back in episode 35, she must have been kicking herself.
And in the future, it seems that there is a period in which there is no Sailor Moon per se, although presumably Sailor Chibi Moon is in training to succeed the position.
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by Jonathan » Sun Aug 07, 2005 12:22 pm
Wow, i never really thought of it that way. I think Luna awoke Usagi before the other 4 senshi because Usagi found her first. Maybe she had her own plan of finding the senshi, and then boom, Usagi comes out of nowhere. That would make it more convinient for her.
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by peachvampiress » Sun Aug 07, 2005 7:19 pm
the dooky
Having said that, it's interesting that Luna didn't make the obvious assumption that Sailor Moon = Moon Princess
I know. I've thought about that for a few years now. I mean, of all the candidits in Tokyo for Moon Princess, you'd think the girl named Usagi
Tsukino a.k.a. Sailor
Moon would be one of the top contenders. But that's our crazy Luna and we love her (even when she's old and British).
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by Usagi777 » Sun Aug 07, 2005 11:02 pm
Remember in the manga Artemis said that Venus--then Sailor V was the moon princess and Sailor Moon stepped down not knowing the truth. But later when Darien was killed in a fight and she cried--her tear became the Ginzuishou and then everyone found out she was Sailor Moon. And remember Luna doesnt know ALL the answer she can just tell that a person is special by her feeling (whether they're a sailor soldier or evil) and by stalking them she finally finds the answer of which they are. And remember no one really would know that the princess just happened to be a soldier--let alone sailor moon. At least Luna probably was looking for like a whole new separate person while awakeing sailors so that the princess would have "body-guards". I mean that's what the other inner soldiers are there for while the outers are more for world and universe protecting which is why their powers are stronger ^_^ But yeah that's my whole theory manga wise. I can't really explain the anime reasons. Maybe Luna's just slow ^_^ But you kinda hafta think--sailor MOON.........Moon Princess....oh well
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by GeneticMosaic » Mon Aug 08, 2005 9:17 pm
Well, you would think that a princess wouldn't be a soldier meant to protect the kingdom, since the princess herself is part of that kingdom. Yet it seems that the princess in her comes from DEEP down, like she has suppressed it. Or maybe Luna is a whack-job and a half.. lol. I would have liked to see a real sailor Earth tho. That would have been interesting. Or, actually a sailor Sun. You would think that since the Sun is the center of everything that it would be the SUN princess.. lol...
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by Luna1986 » Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:25 pm
All of this aside, how did Luna know about Sailor Moon? When they first meet she tells Usagi that she is Sailor Moon but how can she know the title "Sailor Moon" if (1) Sailor Moon never exsited in the Silver Millennium or (2) Sailor Moon was a forgoten title of the princess. They either didn't know or couldn't know about it, so where does that leave us? ...*cringe*... It's a madhouse, a maaadhooouse!
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by moonflower » Mon Aug 15, 2005 8:47 pm
Aya Reiko wrote:Lothos wrote:Well, I wonder why Luna has awakened Usagi as Sailor Moon in the present, since she never existed neither in the past (Usagi was Princess Serenity) nor in the future (Usagi will be Neo Queen Serenity). In the first season, Luna and the sailor senshi are looking for the Moon Princess who turns out to be Usagi.
Why did Luna awaken Usagi, that would mean that she already knew that she was the princess, or at least someone related to the moon kingdom.
Why didn't she awaken the four inner senshi first, and then search for the princess?

Maybe Luna has swiss cheese for brains and forgot who the princess was, looked like, etc.
*shrugs*
Creative licence is all I could say.

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by MollyNephlite_Fan » Mon Aug 22, 2005 6:13 pm
Lothos wrote:Well, I wonder why Luna has awakened Usagi as Sailor Moon in the present, since she never existed neither in the past (Usagi was Princess Serenity) nor in the future (Usagi will be Neo Queen Serenity). In the first season, Luna and the sailor senshi are looking for the Moon Princess who turns out to be Usagi.
Why did Luna awaken Usagi, that would mean that she already knew that she was the princess, or at least someone related to the moon kingdom.
Why didn't she awaken the four inner senshi first, and then search for the princess?

Oh my god! I've been thinking the same thing for like the past three days. it just doesn't seem to make sense. but maybe they were two different people but they were born into the same person. or luna just lost some of her memory and forgot sailor moon was the princess.
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by Pipestrell » Wed Aug 24, 2005 6:02 pm
I'd always taken it that Sailor Moon was always a possible form for the princess, but one she rarely needed to take; just as Princess Kakyuu has a senshi form but only takes it during wartime when pressed. In this way it could be said that Silor moon existed in potentia in the moon kingdom. As for Luna, it seemed as though certain memories were repressed so as to allow usagi to awaken to her past life in her own way and time.
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by Starscream » Thu Aug 25, 2005 6:04 am
It doesn't seem like the manga or anime ever give definitive answers for why Usagi/Princess Serenity was ever able to take the form of Sailor Moon. My running hypothesis has been that Princess Serenity, in her final moments on the moon, sincerely wanted to be able to protect her friends and loved ones, Prince Endymion most of all. Thus, in an unconscious maneuver, the Ginzuishou made her into a protector - a Sailor Soldier - when she was reincarnated on earth, along with her Usagi and Princess Serenity personalities. The same would go for Mamoru/Endymion able to become a superhero in the present, as well, since it doesn't SEEM like he has any powers when he's wearing the Tuxedo Mask costume at the ball on the moon.
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by MollyNephlite_Fan » Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:43 am
Pipestrell wrote:I'd always taken it that Sailor Moon was always a possible form for the princess, but one she rarely needed to take; just as Princess Kakyuu has a senshi form but only takes it during wartime when pressed. In this way it could be said that Silor moon existed in potentia in the moon kingdom. As for Luna, it seemed as though certain memories were repressed so as to allow usagi to awaken to her past life in her own way and time.
I hope that's true. It makes most sense.
But wait, then how could Mina transform into Sailor Moon? Sailor Mina Moon!
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by jupiter23 » Thu Aug 25, 2005 12:25 pm
She didn't transform into Sailor Moon. If you remember correctly, she said Luna let her use the disguise pen.
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by MollyNephlite_Fan » Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:54 pm
jupiter23 wrote:She didn't transform into Sailor Moon. If you remember correctly, she said Luna let her use the disguise pen.
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by Butterscotch » Fri Aug 26, 2005 5:43 am
Starscream wrote:It doesn't seem like the manga or anime ever give definitive answers for why Usagi/Princess Serenity was ever able to take the form of Sailor Moon. My running hypothesis has been that Princess Serenity, in her final moments on the moon, sincerely wanted to be able to protect her friends and loved ones, Prince Endymion most of all. Thus, in an unconscious maneuver, the Ginzuishou made her into a protector - a Sailor Soldier - when she was reincarnated on earth, along with her Usagi and Princess Serenity personalities. The same would go for Mamoru/Endymion able to become a superhero in the present, as well, since it doesn't SEEM like he has any powers when he's wearing the Tuxedo Mask costume at the ball on the moon.
Ohh, I like that theory. That makes a lot of sense to me!