Most Over and Under Developed Characters

Syon · Post by **Syon** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 1:49 am

Personally I feel Hotaru and Setsuna were under-developed. I would have liked to know more about Pluto, and with Saturn's EXTREME importance, I feel she felt the shaft a little bit.

Usagi and Chibiusa were the most over-developed. I mean sure, I know that Usagi is the main character... but it's my personal opinion because she was never one of my favorite characters lol. She was always able to get on my nerves. And there was WAY too much of the series devoted to herself. I think they should have had more of an open draft type of environment, where all the senshi had nearly the same amount of development and airtime. This is unlike most other multiple-hero shows in that no single character is incredibly useful without the others. By herself Usagi is usually a useless crybaby, but when she does get serious uinder pressure, there is always someone behind her to back her up. And it is usually the same people. the inner-senshi.

Now I think i'll go back to my Asahi... i'm having trouble making my thoughts come out coherent, and informative ~.~

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 7:50 pm

Many SM fans would say Ami was overdeveloped due to her having a few episodes that pertained to her and even to the short film Ami's First Love. Others would say Usagi & Chibi-Usa were overdeveloped. In my opinion I don't think that these characters were "overdeveloped". We know more about them and there are some other characters that we don't know too well such as Setsuna (Sailor Pluto) but she is suppose to have this aura of mystery about her. Some would say that Haruka & Michiru are underdeveloped but how can they be? We see bits and pieces of their relationship but we don't need a full-fledged description of it.

I wish though that they would continue the Exam Battle series and make one on Makoto, Minako, and Rei. Sailor Moon needs to resurface again on TV and even though we have 200 great episodes, TV specials, 3 movies and a short film Ami's First Love, I still can't get enough of Sailor Moon. I wish the cast would get back together and make some movies, if another series isn't possible.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:01 pm

Ami, Usagi, Haruka and Michiru had an ass-load of screen-time. My least favorite being Ami I'll whole-heartedly agree she was the most over-developed.

Now my only differing opinion is of Chibi-Usa. Yes she had alot of screentime in R, S, and SuperS... but from S forward you don't really learn much more about her. Anything I know about Chibi-Usa came from the R season (and I have seen R through Super S through to the end)

Under-developed would be Makoto and Minako. At least the most anyway, we know little about Makoto and only bits and pieces about Minako. both of them could have potentially been very complex and interesting character had they been given the time of day.

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:00 pm

Panda wrote:Under-developed would be Makoto and Minako. At least the most anyway, we know little about Makoto and only bits and pieces about Minako. both of them could have potentially been very complex and interesting character had they been given the time of day.

I personally would have liked to have known more about how Makoto felt about not having any parents. Like, judging from the SS movie, she had an awful lot of stuff in her apartment. Probably just her parents stuff and apartment, but still. A ton of stuff and responsibility for a teenager. I'd also like to know how she got her bills paid.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:04 pm

Panda wrote:Ami, Usagi, Haruka and Michiru had an ass-load of screen-time. My least favorite being Ami I'll whole-heartedly agree she was the most over-developed.

Now my only differing opinion is of Chibi-Usa. Yes she had alot of screentime in R, S, and SuperS... but from S forward you don't really learn much more about her. Anything I know about Chibi-Usa came from the R season (and I have seen R through Super S through to the end)

Under-developed would be Makoto and Minako. At least the most anyway, we know little about Makoto and only bits and pieces about Minako. both of them could have potentially been very complex and interesting character had they been given the time of day.

We don't know a lot about Makoto accept that her parents died and that she lives alone and that she's Sailor Jupiter. We also know that she likes to cook and she is a very tough girl who wants everyone to see her feminine side. I don't know if the Exam Battle episode on her tells a lot about her but it must give a little bit of more information. There is an episode about Minako in the first season called "Sailor Venus' Past! Minako's Tragic Love" but aside from that we get little bits and pieces of her in a few episodes. We know that she is Sailor V and that she likes to be an idol and sing. But what about Rei? Do you think that she is underdeveloped?

Sailor Saturn and Pluto are probably the most underdeveloped characters. Pluto is even more underdeveloped then Saturn. We know a little more about Hotaru (Saturn) then Setsuna (Pluto).

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:05 pm

Well, if I could guess. I would say her some form of insurance pays for the majority (if not all) of her bills. I mean, she lives in Juuban for christs sake...

EDIT: I just saw your comment there...

Hmmm... I really think Rei could be more developed also but on the scale she certainly isnt the least developed. I would say part of that is because alot of meetings and battles take place at her home plus the focus that is put on her is almost purely emotionaly charged and is always pretty different from the last Rei episode.

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:08 pm

Panda wrote:Well, if I could guess. I would say her some form of insurance pays for the majority (if not all) of her bills. I mean, she lives in Juuban for christs sake...

What does her living in Juuban have to do with anything? I understand the insurance part, but the Juuban part tells me next to nothing.

smfan423 · Post by **smfan423** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:18 pm

I imagine that he is stating that Juuban is a rather inexpensive place to live, but this I am only able to garner from the point I believe he is trying to make.

kingofgames · Post by **kingofgames** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:24 pm

I thin Juuban is a bit over used in this series

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:24 pm

Are you refering to me? I'm a she is you are.

From my understanding, Juuban is an expensive place to live. Thus my comment about Makoto living there through insurance.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:24 pm

Panda wrote:Well, if I could guess. I would say her some form of insurance pays for the majority (if not all) of her bills. I mean, she lives in Juuban for christs sake...

EDIT: I just saw your comment there...

Hmmm... I really think Rei could be more developed also but on the scale she certainly isnt the least developed. I would say part of that is because alot of meetings and battles take place at her home plus the focus that is put on her is almost purely emotionaly charged and is always pretty different from the last Rei episode.

Makoto is a little least developed but Setsuna is probably the most underdeveloped. At least in Sailor Moon S we know a little bit about Hotaru who as we know is Sailor Saturn. But we don't know anything about Pluto except for that she is the Guardian of Time. Question: When the Silver Millennium was destroyed all of the Sailor Soldiers went to 20th century on Earth. Did Pluto go to? In Sailor Moon R we see her guarding the door that leads to the future but she doesn't seem to have a life on Earth at this time like the others do.

smfan423 · Post by **smfan423** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:31 pm

@Panda: Wow, that must be some insurance.

Oh, btw, sorry about the gender mistake--I'm not used to forums with more than a couple of girls on them (I'm usually on PC game boards).

Neon Heart · Post by **Neon Heart** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:39 pm

kingofgames wrote:I thin Juuban is a bit over used in this series

Well, they DO live in the Juuban district, so it is going to be over used. If they lived in Tailand, or Kansas City, or Paris, or Quebec, then it'd be overused too.

Panda · Post by **Panda** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:48 pm

I've always thought that them living in Juuban was pretty cool. I do wish they were more spread out over Tokyo but then it'd be hard to get them together so it's for the best.

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Don't worry about the gender mistake. As far as I'm concerned pandas are androgynous.

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Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:45 am

In the anime, I agree that hands down Setsuna is the most neglected. They barely did anything with her, which is one of the many reasons I am so partial to the manga. She's just awesome in the manga, and does a LOT more, and we get to actually see some of her thoughts and feelings, especially about her relationship with the royal family.

I'm in the lines with those who say that I don't think you really can "over develop" a character. There's always something more you can learn about someone, in fiction or in real life, and you can never know everything. But yes, Usagi and Chibi-Usa did probably get too much screen time and episodes when compared to everyone else... I mean, there are a lot of little things that get shown or mentioned that we really don't care about.

Especially in the case of Chibi-Usa, where I cared so little about most of what they developed about her that it was a chore to get through most of Super S. Again, another character who I think is significantly more interesting in the manga.

SailorMoonFan · Post by **SailorMoonFan** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:00 am

Sylphiel wrote:In the anime, I agree that hands down Setsuna is the most neglected. They barely did anything with her, which is one of the many reasons I am so partial to the manga. She's just awesome in the manga, and does a LOT more, and we get to actually see some of her thoughts and feelings, especially about her relationship with the royal family.

I'm in the lines with those who say that I don't think you really can "over develop" a character. There's always something more you can learn about someone, in fiction or in real life, and you can never know everything. But yes, Usagi and Chibi-Usa did probably get too much screen time and episodes when compared to everyone else... I mean, there are a lot of little things that get shown or mentioned that we really don't care about.

Especially in the case of Chibi-Usa, where I cared so little about most of what they developed about her that it was a chore to get through most of Super S. Again, another character who I think is significantly more interesting in the manga.

How did the manga develop Setsuna? I never read the manga, I just watched the anime and we never learn alot about her as I mentioned before.

I don't see how anyone can say that Usagi got so much screen time because the name of the anime is "Sailor Moon" and the show has to be about her--she's the leader.

Does anyone think the anime did a great job of developing the enemies such as The Death Busters, Queen Beryl or Queen Galaxia?

Sylphiel · Post by **Sylphiel** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:54 am

SailorMoonFan wrote:How did the manga develop Setsuna? I never read the manga, I just watched the anime and we never learn alot about her as I mentioned before.

There used to be a great website that was devoted to the Setsuna of JUST the manga, but I can't seem to find it right now. It might have gone down, but it discusses a lot about that very indepth.

It's been a while since I've read it or seen the anime but basically it goes a lot more into the Crystal Tokyo stuff her relationship with Small Lady, her feelings and respect for Usagi, and her (implied, I believe) unrequited feelings for Endymion.

She also does more with her attacks, which are even more bad-ass. =P