Sailormoon American rebirth possible?

[dimsum]

yes that is true nowadays its all for the new things. but if there was to be a rebirth i don't think all people would loose interest. most of the new anime's nowadays have no substance well IMO. by the time america gets its new lincense maybe Toei will redo sailormoon or do something new with it =P

[Aya Reiko]

"Good news, Bad news" time

The Good News:

Pretty Cure has been licensed for North American distribution. That means Toei's DVD experiment is over and back to dealing with North American companies again.

The Bad News:

Pretty Cure has been licensed by 4Kids. If you don't know, 4Kids is essentially another DiC-style hack-and-slash company. If SM gets licensed by them, expect the series to get the same treatment it got when DiC was in charge of the dub.

[Matto]

My hate for 4kids is to be blamed for letting go of Ultimate Muscle (flame me, I don't care ) but they AREN'T that bad of a compeny (using the term "aren't" loosely...) I somewhat enjoyed the GI Joe anime (which didn't suck that badly, like other American/Japanese birthchildren that don't work *cough*yugiohmovie*wheez*), and of course UM...

But back on topic, a rebirth for the manga? Iffy, despite Del-Ray and Kodansha's partnership Naoko and Toei's fights are putting a damper on everything. We can't really blame Naoko, it's mostly Toei's fault anyway but stranger things have happened...

Anime...I cry in pain. Cloverway/Optimum hit the nail in the coffin, and Toei took their sweet time in realizing what a bad product it was, and Geneon get stuck in the middle (I'm still looking around for the S/Super S movies and the rest of the S series DVD...it's hard). In my personal two cents, not ever...

[#1SailorMoonFan]

I believe it will be reborn. Who do I think will re dub it? FUNimation. They seem like the only likely candidate. If the re dubbed Dragonball Z, I see no reason not to have BSSM re dubbed. I have read countless times and heard rumors that FUNimation has interest in getting BSSM. Another rumor I have heard is that they are dubbing all 200 episodes, the movies, and all the specials as we speak. I hope it's true and when they start selling the DVDs, it is the RG2 release Japan got. EXACTLY the same, only subtitled. *starts dreaming of BSSM DVDs without those ******* annoying black spots and digitally remasterdness*

[Aya Reiko]

I believe it will be reborn. Who do I think will re dub it? FUNimation. They seem like the only likely candidate. If the re dubbed Dragonball Z, I see no reason not to have BSSM re dubbed. I have read countless times and heard rumors that FUNimation has interest in getting BSSM. Another rumor I have heard is that they are dubbing all 200 episodes, the movies, and all the specials as we speak. I hope it's true and when they start selling the DVDs, it is the RG2 release Japan got. EXACTLY the same, only subtitled. *starts dreaming of BSSM DVDs without those ******* annoying black spots and digitally remasterdness*

Funi redubbed DBZ because DBZ still sells as if there's no tomorrow.
The rumor you heard is completely wrong. No one has the rights for the R1 distribution anymore. The only company I see picking up the series is, regretfully, 4Kids. The only other company I've seen pick up long series like BSSM is Viz, but they got their hands full with both Bleach and Naruto.

[#1SailorMoonFan]

Funi redubbed DBZ because DBZ still sells as if there's no tomorrow.
The rumor you heard is completely wrong. No one has the rights for the R1 distribution anymore. The only company I see picking up the series is, regretfully, 4Kids. The only other company I've seen pick up long series like BSSM is Viz, but they got their hands full with both Bleach and Naruto.

I never said the rumor was true! And I was talking about the R2 version selling in Japan, not the R1 one. I highly doubt 4Kids! would choose to dub BSSM. The only one I see doing that is FUNimation. IDK what Viz is though.

[HarukaMichiru]

Personally, I don't see any company re-dubbing Sailor Moon for American/Canadian audiences. It is simply too expensive, and the profits aren't there. The only thing I can see happening one day is either the Disney Channel or Cartoon Network re-airing the old dubbed episodes. But again, I don't see this happening anytime soon.

Just my opinion, looking at the big "financial" picture.

[Jusenkyo no Pikachu]

[TM Moon Supporter mode]

Now that it costs less, they should try that

[/TM Moon Supporter mode]

Actually, aside from the "we're all familiar with/love SM the way it was" mode (and the fact that the video had one of the worst songs ever to be written), this could be done well. Just get actors and storylines of the South of Nowhere calibre to keep the older viewers interested and you should have something.

[Aya Reiko]

Funi redubbed DBZ because DBZ still sells as if there's no tomorrow.
The rumor you heard is completely wrong. No one has the rights for the R1 distribution anymore. The only company I see picking up the series is, regretfully, 4Kids. The only other company I've seen pick up long series like BSSM is Viz, but they got their hands full with both Bleach and Naruto.

I never said the rumor was true! And I was talking about the R2 version selling in Japan, not the R1 one. I highly doubt 4Kids! would choose to dub BSSM. The only one I see doing that is FUNimation. IDK what Viz is though.

IDK? What's that?

Actually, considering 4Kid$ picked up Tokyo Mew Mew (redubbed Mew Mew Power), Ojamajo Doremi, and Pretty Cure, picking up SM would be right up their alley. In case you didn't know, 4Kid$ is on par with (if not worse than) DiC in terms of hacking and slashing a series to death.

[Tempest]

Funi redubbed DBZ because DBZ still sells as if there's no tomorrow.
The rumor you heard is completely wrong. No one has the rights for the R1 distribution anymore. The only company I see picking up the series is, regretfully, 4Kids. The only other company I've seen pick up long series like BSSM is Viz, but they got their hands full with both Bleach and Naruto.

I never said the rumor was true! And I was talking about the R2 version selling in Japan, not the R1 one. I highly doubt 4Kids! would choose to dub BSSM. The only one I see doing that is FUNimation. IDK what Viz is though.

IDK? What's that?

Actually, considering 4Kid$ picked up Tokyo Mew Mew (redubbed Mew Mew Power), Ojamajo Doremi, and Pretty Cure, picking up SM would be right up their alley. In case you didn't know, 4Kid$ is on par with (if not worse than) DiC in terms of hacking and slashing a series to death.

IDK = I Don't Know

I only know because someone explained it to me.

[Aya Reiko]

Nothing really new to add per se, but this officially confirms something we already knew awhile ago.

From AoD (dated Mon Sept. 11):

Toei Products Finally Cancelled (10:34 PM EDT): In the latest weekly mailer from Geneon Entertainment, they have confirmed that as of 08/31/2006 all Toei anime products that they were distributing have been cancelled.

[Starscream]

Nothing really new to add per se, but this officially confirms something we already knew awhile ago.

From AoD (dated Mon Sept. 11):

Toei Products Finally Cancelled (10:34 PM EDT): In the latest weekly mailer from Geneon Entertainment, they have confirmed that as of 08/31/2006 all Toei anime products that they were distributing have been cancelled.

All their US distros, you mean?

[Aya Reiko]

Nothing really new to add per se, but this officially confirms something we already knew awhile ago.

From AoD (dated Mon Sept. 11):

Toei Products Finally Cancelled (10:34 PM EDT): In the latest weekly mailer from Geneon Entertainment, they have confirmed that as of 08/31/2006 all Toei anime products that they were distributing have been cancelled.

All their US distros, you mean?

Yes, the operation that (crappily) brought Interlude, part of Air Master, and part of Slam Dunk.

[Umino]

It's a shame Toei totally fucked up here. I really wanted to see Air Master and Slam Dunk.

[sailorceres]

i dont think this is goign to happen but oe can only hope...

[Garland]

Greetings. I'm sorry if this has been posted before, but this is what I had to get off of my chest.

According to http://www.animeondvd.com, there are users talking about a Sailor Moon redub. I'm not saying that this will happen, but if it does, either Viz Media or FUNimation can pick the rights up from Toei, & will manage to handle it. Taken from these links here...

http://www.animeondvd.com/specials/lady ... ycat30.php
http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtop ... tid/28757/

But if there is ever going to be a redub of Sailor Moon, here are the following things I would like to see happen (Spoilers involved)...

1. KEEP EVERYTHING ORIGINALLY INTACT, meaning background music, the character names & personalities, etc. The background music that DiC had was horrible. I liked the Original music much better, though I will admit that I liked the change of "Carry On" in the last episode of the Original Sailormoon Season, as well as other vocal songs that DiC did.

2. NO EDITS OR CUTS, please! Considering the way that DiC had done the first two seasons (As well as Cloverway sometimes), it can be very appaling. About 5 episodes were taken out of the dub version for no good reason, [spoiler]& made the final two episodes into one in the first season where all the Sailor Soldiers get killed, as well as Sailor Moon & Mamoru dying at the end of part 2, then making Usagi's wish came true when she asked her & her friends to be reborn & to live a very, peaceful life. Instead, they were "Captured" in the dub, & that another Episode was cut out of the 2nd season.[/spoiler]

3. KEEP THE SCRIPTS FAITHFUL TO THE ORIGINAL. Many people like myself didn't realize that DiC & Cloverway had did an awesome job of tearing apart the scripts so that we wouldn't noticed it, but when I finally watched the originals, I was quite steamed, & so were many other fans.

4. HAVE BETTER VOICE ACTORS & ACTRESSES. Granted, I absolutely loved Tracey Moore's (& apparently, Terri Hawkes) voice in the first two seasons of the Sailor Moon Dub, portraying as her, as well as some others who played as Queen Beryl, Jadeite, the Sailor Soldiers, etc. However, there are some that I didn't like, such as Naru's (Molly's), Luna's, etc. Not only that, once the Sailor S season came, that's when it went all downhill, & were so awful that it made me cringe, such as Linda Ballantyne's voice when she portrayed as Sailor Moon, as well as the voice for Sailor Mercury's (I think that the only voices that weren't changed are Luna, Artemis, Sailor Mars, Sailor Jupiter, & Tuxedo Kamen (Mask)) The only other good voice was Chibi-Usa's (Rini's; which was much better than the 2nd season of the Dub, that & Sailor Venus's new voice wasn't too bad at all). Ugh. It just makes you want to move to another country.

5. HAVE THE DVD'S IN BOTH ENGLISH & JAPANESE, WITH ENGLISH SUBTITLES WHEN CHOOSING JAPANESE, & MAKE THEM IN BETTER QUALITY. Granted, Geneon (Pioneer) did an awesome job with the Sailor Moon S, & the Super S series, as well as with the three movies. ADV films with the first two seasons, however, was did a craptacular job on it. The DVD's that Toei had done themselves were excellent in both the picture & sound quality compared to those. The only problem with their DVD's were that there are no english subtitles (who knows why; I know that Both SailorStars & the Live-Action DVD's don't have any english subtitles at all. Can someone confirm for me if the first four seasons & the movies have them please, thanks.).

That's all I have to say about this. As for my least favorite season, I would have to vote for Sailor Moon Super S. The manga was actually more serious than the anime, as Toei managed to botch some things from the manga & tried to succeed with their own storylines for it, & that didn't work well with the fans. Not only that, but most of the time, the plot focused mostly on Chibi-Usa rather than Usagi (she's the main character, isn't she?), & that now both Chibi-Usa & Usagi have to transform together. The only good episodes which I can think of are the last five where Sailor Moon takes charge again.

I just hope that someone, someday, will take this into consideration.

[Tiff]

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I've merged your topic with a previous topic that basically covers the same subject.

[Aya Reiko]

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

The first link is positively ancient. It's talks about S and SS airing on CN. Furthermore, it talks about Pioneer and the DVDs for S and SS weren't out yet. DVD #1 for S came out in February 2001. Which means that link is at least 6 years old.

Link 2 is nothing but speculation. Nothing of any value whatsoever.

[Garland]

ADMIN MODE:

If you don't feel like hunting for a topic that previously exists, then do not post it. It is in our rules to make sure you don't double post a topic. Please take the time to review them before posting again.

I've merged your topic with a previous topic that basically covers the same subject.

Sorry about that. I didn't realize that a while ago.

Hate to burst your bubble, but...

The first link is positively ancient. It's talks about S and SS airing on CN. Furthermore, it talks about Pioneer and the DVDs for S and SS weren't out yet. DVD #1 for S came out in February 2001. Which means that link is at least 6 years old.

Link 2 is nothing but speculation. Nothing of any value whatsoever.

Well, I thought that it was kind of reliable, since they were talking about it. Now I understand.

[Cardcaptor Takato]

The only problem with their DVD's were that there are no english subtitles (who knows why; I know that Both SailorStars & the Live-Action DVD's don't have any english subtitles at all. Can someone confirm for me if the first four seasons & the movies have them please, thanks.).

There are no English subtitles on any of Japan's Sailor Moon DVDs. The Japanese R2 DVDs don't have English subtitles for the same reason the R1 DVDs don't have Japanese subtitles, because that's not the language the DVDs are being produced for. English people are in the minority in Japan, so they're not going to bother wasting time and money on producing a separate set of subtitles for something that there's little demand for in Japan. And Toei currently has no plans of releasing Sailor Moon in the U.S., so it's not like they have any concerns for the U.S. fandom or anything.