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Post by peachvampiress » Mon Aug 02, 2004 1:51 pm

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Umm, this really should have been a given but.......

Can I freaking have a LINK please???????????
:shock: That's what I forgot! Sorry, I was writing that and just blanked on the link. Cardcaptor Takato gave the link (thanks)

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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Mon Aug 02, 2004 4:57 pm

I remember this! I remember they used to include a free copy of this promo tape with those Sailor Moon Adventure Dolls for a while. It is clear that DiC made this promo BEFORE they actually did any work on the show.

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Post by Angel_Vixen » Wed Aug 04, 2004 4:09 pm

I just watched that. It made me cringe the voices .... eurgh thank god they didnt have those people!

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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Thu Aug 05, 2004 8:14 am

Has anyone else noticed that at DiC's official site they refer to Serena as "Victoria", which was her name in this promo tape? I just found it odd that they called her "Victoria" at their site, even though Serena is her "official" name in the English version.
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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Thu Aug 05, 2004 10:39 am

Cardcaptor Takato wrote:Has anyone else noticed that at DiC's official site they refer to Serena as "Victoria", which was her name in this promo tape? I just found it odd that they called her "Victoria" at their site, even though Serena is her "official" name in the English version.
maybe some employee typed it up, after just watching the promo tape. Who knows. But making a summary based on the first few episodes would make too much sense, wouldn't it? It reminds me how in the box set, ADV combines Japanese and dub information. All I can really say is d'uh!

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Post by MarioKnight » Thu Aug 05, 2004 11:47 am

Here's some food for thought on a different dub. Back in 1995 a week before the series had even begun to air, DiC had a pilot episode air on Fox to judge how well it would be recieved and such. Interestingly enough, the episode that was chosen as the pilot episode was NOT "A Moon Star is Born", rather "The Return of Sailor Moon," the first episode in SMR. This pilot episode had some differences between it and the version of that episode we've all seen over and over, some of which includes Tracey Moore being the voice of Serena, the "Star Wars" like text in the opening, and the lack of a Sailor Says segment. In the version we all know, we know that Tracey Moore is no longer the VA for Serena by the time this episode comes up in the sequence, the special opening text is removed by this episode, and that there isn't a single DiC episode that doesn't have a Sailor Says segment. I'm not sure if there's any more differences between the two episodes, but it is some food for thought. (And before anyone asks, the version of this episode that will be used for comparisons will be the second one that has always aired. That first version only aired once in the fall of 1995 and I haven't ever been able to find a copy of it, and since Bob got his DiC tapes from me, he doesn't have it either)
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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Thu Aug 05, 2004 12:58 pm

That's quite an interesting piece of information, Dan. Since the show didn't come to Canada until some time after it started airing in the US, we probably didn't get that pilot episode here. It's definately going to be hard to track down a copy of that. If I find anything, a VHS, or a posted video online somewhere, I'll let you know.

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Post by peachvampiress » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:26 pm

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the show didn't come to Canada until some time after it started airing in the US,
I don't think it was too long. I remember watching the first episode when it was first shown on YTV and that was at the beginning of the school year in 1995, I do remember that in it's first run, they played the Classic episodes, then the Black Moon episodes, then the Ail/Ann episodes. 0___o; it confused me.
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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:28 pm

peachvampiress wrote:RoastedTwinkies
the show didn't come to Canada until some time after it started airing in the US,
I don't think it was too long. I remember watching the first episode when it was first shown on YTV and that was at the beginning of the school year in 1995, I do remember that in it's first run, they played the Classic episodes, then the Black Moon episodes, then the Ail/Ann episodes. 0___o; it confused me.
that's really, really weird o_O

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Post by MarioKnight » Thu Aug 05, 2004 1:45 pm

Actually, if I remember correctly, the Canadian run was a week or two ahead of the US run, don't quote me on that though. However, in the first run, the arcs were out of order. The statement made by Janice Sonski at the time was (let's see if I can find it), "We hoped we would be able to place the Alan and Ann story on a network and so we held them out as 13 exclusive episodes, but no decision has been made and we needed to run them." So I guess they had wanted to do some creative marketing, but never got around to it, so the first run in both countries had the arcs out of order, and all runs after that had the order corrected.
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Post by SailorBoy62 » Fri Aug 06, 2004 12:49 am

MarioKnight wrote:Here's some food for thought on a different dub. Back in 1995 a week before the series had even begun to air, DiC had a pilot episode air on Fox to judge how well it would be recieved and such. Interestingly enough, the episode that was chosen as the pilot episode was NOT "A Moon Star is Born", rather "The Return of Sailor Moon," the first episode in SMR...
Mwahahaha. I saw the pilot episode, and yet when I told people back at another board they didn't believe that it existed. MWAHAHAHA! Anyways, they re-dubbed Tracey Moore's lines with Terri Hawkes in the 2nd version.

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Post by doodlebuguk » Tue Aug 10, 2004 11:22 am

*Watches clip*... Aww, that's funny! Thank you people, that really cheered me up!

Are you serious? They were trying to sell Sailor Moon to different networks with that? It seemed like a parody instead. I mean, like a parody of how companies try to sell their shows. :roll:

I thought the clips of the moon landing at the beginning were a spectacular touch. :shock: Sheesh... what were these people thinking...

Actually, it was really interesting the different names the Senshi had. I think these were the ones they used:

Usagi - Victoria
Ami - Blue :shock:
Makoto - Sara
Rei - Daina (Sorry, I'm really sorry to anyone with this name, but I can't spell it at all :oops: )
Minako - Carrie

OK, those don't sound too bad, except for calling Ami 'Blue.' Ick, so glad they stayed closer to the original names in the end. (Excluding Usagi and Makoto)
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Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Fri Aug 13, 2004 3:33 am

Yes they were trying to sell it like that.

This was done before the final tweaks were made.
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Post by Sailor Moon » Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:23 pm

When I was doing comparisions with my Japanese fansubs to the English eps, the sm returns english ep in comparision had Tracey Moore's voice, the "star war" like credits and a missing sm says segment. That's the version they sell on the adv dvds. I use VHS tapes for Japanese fansubs and a mix of tapes and episodes I taped back in 1995 dvds for the English ones as comparisions.
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Post by devilmaykickass » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:30 pm

MarioKnight wrote:Here's some food for thought on a different dub. Back in 1995 a week before the series had even begun to air, DiC had a pilot episode air on Fox to judge how well it would be recieved and such. Interestingly enough, the episode that was chosen as the pilot episode was NOT "A Moon Star is Born", rather "The Return of Sailor Moon," the first episode in SMR. This pilot episode had some differences between it and the version of that episode we've all seen over and over, some of which includes Tracey Moore being the voice of Serena, the "Star Wars" like text in the opening, and the lack of a Sailor Says segment. In the version we all know, we know that Tracey Moore is no longer the VA for Serena by the time this episode comes up in the sequence, the special opening text is removed by this episode, and that there isn't a single DiC episode that doesn't have a Sailor Says segment. I'm not sure if there's any more differences between the two episodes, but it is some food for thought. (And before anyone asks, the version of this episode that will be used for comparisons will be the second one that has always aired. That first version only aired once in the fall of 1995 and I haven't ever been able to find a copy of it, and since Bob got his DiC tapes from me, he doesn't have it either)
I have this episode on VHS, but not at my current residence. I could cap it and put it up, if anyone was wanting it (for some strange reason), that is, once I get a hold of the tape, and when I'm moved into my dorm with fast internet (which will be the 23rd).

I even remember watching my sister record it...I was 10 at the time, begining 5th grade. :D

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Post by Sailor Moon » Tue Aug 17, 2004 7:51 pm

All the ADV DVDs have that episode. They put the pilot one on the DVD by mistake instead of the one they would usually use.

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Post by devilmaykickass » Tue Aug 17, 2004 10:03 pm

Sailor Moon wrote:All the ADV DVDs have that episode. They put the pilot one on the DVD by mistake instead of the one they would usually use.
Really? Oh..well, thats our ADV after all. <3

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