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If DiC dubbed ALL of Sailor Moon

Post by Chibi Son Gokou » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:36 am

This is what I think Sailor Moon would have been like if DiC dubbed all of it. No Cloverway or Optimum or whatever company involved.

S Season

The typical DiC music would remain

The Death Busters would be called "The Negaverse Elite"

Haruka and Michiru would be named Corrine and Neressa respectively (just like the Irwin toys)

The pure hearts would be called "energy crystals"

World Shaking would be changed to "Uranus Earthquake Shake"

Deep Submerge would be changed to "Neptune Tidal Wave Splash"

Dead Scream would be changed to "Pluto Cosmic Blast Strike"

The Messiah would be referred to as "The Light Princess"

Hotaru's name would be Harriet

Professor Tomoe would be named Professor Roberts

There would be a lot of "giant can opener" references to The Silence Glaive


Super S

I don't know what they would change in Super S since there isn't much they could possibly change, plus I have only seen half the series. But then again, it's DiC we're dealing with.


Sailor Stars

Queen N (forgot how to spell her name) would be named Queen Nela.

Seiya, Taiki, and Yaten would be named Sean, Travis, and Scott respectively.

The Three Lights would sound like N'SYNC

Eternal Sailor Moon would be Ultra Sailor Moon

Chibi Chibi would be named Mini Mini

The villians would be referred to as The Nega Scouts

Silent Wall would be "Saturn Shield Protect"


That's all I can think of now. Anyone care to add anything, be my guest.
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Re: If DiC dubbed ALL of Sailor Moon

Post by Jusenkyo no Pikachu » Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:45 am

Actually, even though this is DiC we're dealing with, they'd still have to give us the origins of Chibi Chibi's name. Recall that she actually got the name as the result of some confusion.
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:23 pm

If DiC dubbed all of Sailor Moon...let's see....for the S season, of course the DiC dubbed music would be used. Haruka would be Alex and Michiriu woudl probably still be Michelle. I think DiC would also make them related somehow. Maybe as sisters instead of cousins? Serena's attacks would be changed to "Heart Scepter Elemination" and "Rainbow Scepter Elemination." Sailor Uranaus' attack would be "Uranuas Earthquake Crush" and Neptune's would be "Neptune Watery Blast" or something corny like that.

I think most of the villians would keep their names expcet for Proffesor Tomoe, who would be renamed as Proffessor Thomas. Hotaru's name would be changed to Helen and Rini's attack would be "Mini Scepter Elemnation!" with her sailor name remaining as "Sailor Mini-moon" as it is in the Cloverway dub. I think episode 92 would probably be more heavily edited to better cover up Haruka and Michiru's relationship and DiC would definetly cut out Uranuas and Neptune holding hands in a later episode. That's all I can think of for now.
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Post by Neo Dead Moon » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:25 pm

If DiC dubbed all of Sailor Moon, the world would a scary place. That means they would have dubbed even the "controversial" episodes they skipped in Classic and R. And yes, that damn DiC music would be used. It's not the worst dub music ever (Yu-Gi-Oh, CardCaptorsa, Digimon, and recent Pokemon episodes get that honor), but it's pretty bad compared to the original Japanese music (which, I hate to say, isn't all that great, either. Both the dub and Japanese version recycle the same 15 or so pieces of music the entire series, aside from the new villians of the season and Sailor Moon's new transformation/attack music). I think, believe it or not, the dialogue would probably be better with DiC than Cloverway (though that doesn't mean DiC won't cut major plot points or change everyone's names), with slightly less slang and inconsistency.
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Post by Chibi Son Gokou » Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:43 pm

It's not the worst dub music ever (Yu-Gi-Oh, CardCaptorsa, Digimon, and recent Pokemon episodes get that honor)
I thought the Pokemon dub used the original BGM. Anyways, I'm guessing you haven't heard the BGM for dubbed Dragonball Z. The original score was great and was all instrumental and orchestralized and fit the mood. Season 1 and 2's dubbed music wasn't so bad even though it was a bit childish and didn't fit in certain places, but as for Seasons 3 and up, I would rather go deaf then have to hear that crap. Basically what FUNImation did (being a company of fatass rednecks) was buy some $1.00 synthesizer at a garage sale somewhere and had a cat run across it. That's DBZ's dub music.

I also highly believe that FUNImation is a highly worse company than DiC, but that's for a topic by itself.
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Post by Anna Roz » Mon Mar 29, 2004 2:33 pm

Actually, from some rumors that I've seen posted around the net, Dic was originally going to dub the first thirteen episodes of S. Apparently, Haruka and Michiru would be "Corrin and Nerissa" and be only "friends". It also said that Dic was going to alter and possibly skip any episode with any "hints" at their actual relationship in the season..Of course, we ALL know how 'reliable' most of these rumors are.. :roll: Myself, I think Dic was too scared to touch the later seasons, either that, or that they would've censored so much 'offensive' material out that the episodes would be completely short, and then decided to go to something else.

While some may hail the Sailormoon dub's music as '1337' and the original music as 'suX0rs', I myself don't see much in the dub's music. IMO, it sounds too much like Bruce Faulconer's 'music' that Chib Son Gokou described for us..I guess it's easier to pay an idiot to pound his head into a synthesizer for a few hours straight rather than to use the original music, or come up with some real MUSIC for the show..

But..IF Dic had continued with Sailormoon? Oh boy..here's my list of what I think would be changed..

S:

1. Haruka Tenou would be changed to "Corrin Edwards" or some kind of dumb name. The Edwards bit is just my guess..

2. Michiru Kaiou would be "Nerissa O'Hara" or some faux-fancy sounding name..

3. Chibimoon's "Pink Sugar Heart Attack" would probably be "Mini Moon Sweetheart Boom!" or "Mini Sugar Hearts..BLAST!" or some kind of corny name..

4. Sailor Moon's "Moon Spiral Heart Attack"? Probably "Moon Spiral Elimination!" or some kind of crap..

5. Death Busters? What Death Busters? Dic would call them..NEGA BUSTERS!!

6. The Witches would probably lose their mineral-based names, much like Jadeite and Nephrite did back in season 1. They'd probably be spelled and prounounced all '1337' like 'Yugele', 'Mimmette', 'TeluLu', and 'Vylouie'. Heck, Cyprine would probably be 'Cephrin' and Ptilol..she'd probably suffer the fate that Mixx gave her and be called "Petite Roll"..

7. Prof.Tomoe? What Prof.Tomoe? We now have a Professor Darkstone or some other evil sounding name! And his lovely daughter, Holly/Hilary/Tara/Tiffany/Chloe, who becomes Sailor Saturn and the evil "Empress Nega The 9th" who wishes to rule the galaxy.

8. Pure Hearts? Eh..lemme think.."Cosmic Sparkling Heart Diamonds?" Yep, sounds Dic to me..

9. Setsuna Meiou="Celia". Just Celia..

10. Outers attacks? "Uranus..World..QUAKE!" "Neptune Deep Tsunami!" and "Pluto Energy..BLAST!"

11. Same crappy Dic music, same edits, any mention of death or scenes involving death heavily edited and replaced with "She's been sent to the Negaverse!" and "We'll blow you to the Negaverse!"..

Eh, I think I've listed enough of what I think Dic would've done..I think the editing death out would be the most likely thing, considering what happened to episodes 45/46..

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Re: If DiC dubbed ALL of Sailor Moon

Post by Tiff » Mon Mar 29, 2004 3:32 pm

Chibi Son Gokou wrote:

The Death Busters would be called "The Negaverse Elite"

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No. The NegaBusters.

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Re: If DiC dubbed ALL of Sailor Moon

Post by Chibi Son Gokou » Mon Mar 29, 2004 4:18 pm

Tiff wrote:
Chibi Son Gokou wrote:

The Death Busters would be called "The Negaverse Elite"

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No. The NegaBusters.
With DiC it could be anything. Nega Busters sounds like they're anti-Negaverse, meaning they're against it just like The Ghostbusters are against ghosts. I would think DiC would use Negaverse Elite cause, well, they're an elite group of individuals. HAHAHAHAHA (stupid DiC humor)
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Post by Dinozore » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:31 pm

I always wondered about "Death Busters". I mean, shouldn't they be the "Life Busters" or something, since they're basically trying to destroy the world?

I don't think there would be too much different, except S and SS wouldn't have the original music and Hotaru would have a new name.

Stars is enough matter entirely, but we've gone over that topic before...
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Post by Celexa » Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:54 pm

I'm going to focus on SailorStars since that's what I saw most recently.

The Queen Nehellenia episodes would be turned from six episodes into two or three. We can't have breaking glass, oh no, that would make children think it's okay to break glass.

The Sailor Starlights would be the Sailor Stars. They would be females that look like males, and the beach episode where they take their shirts off would have that scene cut, or the whold thing would be cut.

The scenes where Galaxia is bleeding would be cut.

Sailor Iron Mouse would have a cutesy voice, Sailor Aluminum Siren would be renamed to something like Sailor Lead Fish and would have a soft and shy voice or an overly ditzy voice, Sailor Lead Crow would have a demanding gruff voice, and Sailor Tin Nyanko would be renamed Sailor Tin Cat and have a scratchy voice.

The Animamates would be the Evil Scouts and Sailor Galaixa would probably be named Sailor Galaxy.

The scenes of the Inner Sailor Senshi dying would be edited heavily.

Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune wouldn't choose to join Sailor Galaxia cuz we all know that Princess Serenity's guardians are too pure for that. (That was sarcastic)

Sailor Pluto and Sailor Saturn closing their eyes to accept the Star-Seed stealing blasts would be cut out just to take away emotion.

Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune would be actually controlled by the bracelets, and the scene of Uranus slapping Sailor Moon would be cut.

When Sailor Uranus and Sailor Neptune blast Sailor Galaxia, they would overcome the control with their love for Sailor Moon

And finally, episode 199 and episode 200 would be combined, and the battle scenes would either be painted over with Princess Serenity's gown or a white bikini.

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Post by Anna Roz » Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:52 pm

For SuperS, Dic probably would've called the Dead Moon Circus the 'Nega Moon Circus' or the 'Negaverse Circus' or something.

And then in Stars, they'd probably make Galaxia out to be complete evil and say she's the supreme commander of the Negaverse and that she's been waiting for Sailor Moon all this time. And then in the end, she's healed by..dun dun dun..DA POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND LOOOVE! I mean, we just know how Dic LOVES tying in 'da Negaverse' to every single freakin' enemy that has nothing to do with them..

For Stars, the Animamates would be-wait, what Animamates? Dic'd call them something like the "Nega Scouts". The other girls' death scenes would be heavily edited, and Uranus and Neptune's hand-holding scene would be cut. The scenes mentioning what really happened to Mamoru would be dropped, and death would be covered up pretty heavily. Instead, we would have such WONDERFUL *cough not cough* phrases as "Your friends are just fine..IN THE NEGAVERSE! MWHAHA!" and such. The Starlights? Either Dic'd paint bikini tops on the topless Three Lights to make them look like chicks, drop the scene or episode completely, or use the infamous "twin sister" excuse that the Italian dub used. Or..they'd cut the Starlights out completely, cutting out all and any of their scenes, which would suck..But, since Sailor Stars doesn't appear to be going anywhere and Dic and Cloverway don't seem to be interested in dubbing it, we can rest for now..

But, the question is, what company would dub Stars if Toei ever decided to let it be liscensed? FUNImation *AAGH!* 4kids *EWW!* or some dubbing company out there that actually respects anime? Um, maybe that's best for another thread..

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Post by Lady of the Light » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:33 pm

For Stars, Eternal Sailor Moon would probably be "Super-Ultra Sailor Moon" and her henshin might be "SUPER ULTRA BUBBLEGUM POWER!" because her sleeves look like pink bubbles, you know.

Galaxia would become "Sailor Galaxy, Scout of Gold" and she would be head of the ENTIRE Negaverse. Occasionaly she would drop comments about all the other villians she trained, and how they failed her. She would mention these to Sailor Iron Mouse, Sailor Alluminum Fish, Sailor Lead Crow, and Sailor Tin Cat.

The Sailor Starlights are the Sailor Stars, Scouts of the Outer Reaches of our Galaxy. They're the singing sensations "The Three Stars" triplet sisters that made it big on the music scene, attracting the biggest crowds of fans since the Spice Girls!

No deaths with DiC, folks! Instead the Scouts are simply merged with Galaxy, their particles making her stronger than ever! But Super-Ultra Sailor Moon tries to heal her using the Moon Healing Feathers Condensation! ((Starlight Honeymoon Therapy Kiss)) attack, but to no avail! Angered, Galaxy summons all the past spirits of the Negaverse, becoming Queen Doom. What shall Serena do?

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Post by Rainbow » Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:58 pm

Errr...hmm...I'll do it problem by problem:

Haruka and Michiru: They would be sisters, which would be easy since they live in the same house. Not to mention it's easier to imagine sisters being that friendly with each other than cousins!

Starlights outfits: Not a problem, since some real-life pop stars wear similar outfits.

Starlights gender thing: keep the gender changing and mention over and over that in their transformations they kiss their elbows, then edit the transformations so that they DO that (it's a children's myth that if you kiss your elbow you turn into the opposite sex)

Villains: S villains are the Nega Scientists, SuperS villains the Nega Circus, and the SailorStars villains are the Nega Scouts

S Deaths: They could say that when people lose their talismans, they faint, like in Pokemon

SailorStars deaths: The Scouts got turned INTO mere Star Seeds and Sailor Moon turns them back into humans.
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Post by Sailor Solider » Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:05 pm

Watching a fandub, I heard the terrible words come Uranus and Netpune's attacks

''Uranus, Meteorite Strike''

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Post by Chibi Son Gokou » Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:34 pm

Fandubs are always fun. I mean, the sole purpose of them is to mock the actual dub by putting in as much corny dialog and screwing up the plot as much as possible. I especially find the DBZ fandubs hilarious...

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Post by Tiff » Tue Mar 30, 2004 6:06 pm

Chibi Son Gokou wrote:Fandubs are always fun. I mean, the sole purpose of them is to mock the actual dub by putting in as much corny dialog and screwing up the plot as much as possible.
actually, no. Most fandubbers are dead serious abuot their dubs, and actually believe they're doing an accurate and good dub of it. I cannot stand fandubbers, personally, becuase half the time they think it's perfectly okay to do what dic did: screw up the attack names, use dic music, use made-up names, etc.

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Post by Sailor Solider » Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:45 pm

You mean they actually USE DiC's cues, *shudders*, hey, don't worry, no worse then the horrible memories of ''Sailor Moon Says'', yes folks, there are people who use that in their fandubs!.

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Post by crazydiamond » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:34 pm

I don't understand why you all think Eternal Sailormoon would have her name changed... Did I miss some symbolism in Stars or something? I doubt even DiC would change it. Her henshin phrase, yeah, because they don't like "make-up," but her title...I don't think so. Her phrase would probably be changed to "Eternal Moon Power." Most of the other stuff I agree with, tho. But maybe the Animates would be called "Dark Sailor Scouts" instead of Nega-related.
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Post by Celexa » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:42 pm

crazydiamond wrote: Most of the other stuff I agree with, tho. But maybe the Animates would be called "Dark Sailor Scouts" instead of Nega-related.
Who knows? They seemed in love with their Negaverse. Warning - The rest of the post contains overuse of the prefix "nega"

Season 1 - Nega this, Nega that, Nega force, Nega power, etc.
Season 2.1 - The Doom Tree which came from the Negaverse
Season 2.2 - The Negamoon

I think the rest of the seasons, following this pattern, would have gone like this-

Seaosn 3 - The Negabusters who were the Negaverse's hidden communicators for the Negaverse

Season 4 - The Negamoon circus with Queen Nelly (Nehellenia is too hard for little kids to pronounce...must....change it!) was Queen Beryl's rival and tried to hyptnotize her nega henchman so Queen Beryl sealed the Negaqueen into the Negamoon and Prince Diamond just didn't know.

Season 5 - The Negascouts would awaken when the rest of the Negateam was defeated and their duty was to turn the universe over to the Negaverse by stealing people's Goodness (Can't have what's practically a person's soul ripped out of them) and turning them into Negagirls and Negaguys and then when Sailor Moon defeats the Big Negaenergy (Chaos would stike fear into the hearts of five year olds) the universe is safe and the Negaverse was just using Sailor Galaxia in their plan.

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Post by Rainbow » Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:51 pm

Celexa wrote:(Chaos would stike fear into the hearts of five year olds)
No, it would strike fear in the hearts of the PARENTS of five-year olds, because they would think that Sailor Moon is trying to get kids to act chaotic. Or it might scare the kids who ARE more orderly, especially when they have chaotic younger siblings. So it could go both ways!
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