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Unexplainable Sailor Moon

Post by Pipestrell » Fri Dec 10, 2004 8:47 am

Is there anything out there that you want explained but don't think any one can?

What was Haruka doing with that lemon in Ep93?
Why is Setsuna stalking Usagi (with icecream) in Ep182?
How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
Does Haruka bind her breasts?
What is Haruka doing on top of that diving board in Ep97?
Why is only Chibi-Usa's nudity kept in the dub?
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Re: Unexplainable Sailor Moon

Post by Tempest » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:21 pm

Pipestrell wrote:Is there anything out there that you want explained but don't think any one can?

What was Haruka doing with that lemon in Ep93?
Why is Setsuna stalking Usagi (with icecream) in Ep182?
How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
Does Haruka bind her breasts?
What is Haruka doing on top of that diving board in Ep97?
Why is only Chibi-Usa's nudity kept in the dub?
I can only answer a few

Why is Setsuna stalking Usagi (with icecream) in Ep182?
I don't think it was stalking. ^^; That was the episode Chibi Chibi arrived. If I remember correctly, they (the inners) were speculating if Chibi Chibi was a second child or a grandchild. She appeared, I beleive, to refute the rumors. The icecream was because it was hot that particular day. Later, everyone was eating some form of ice cream.

Does Haruka bind her breasts?
I don't know, but that bothered me. She would have a decent bust size in some episodes, but next to none in others. Difference in animation. I think. It's hard to jusde breat-size with that bow. It seems about average from civilian-sailor.


The rest is open for explination or further correction on my own deductions.
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Re: Unexplainable Sailor Moon

Post by Dinozore » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:07 pm

Pipestrell wrote:How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
I think they stowed away on one of those funky ships...
Does Haruka bind her breasts?
I think it's just inconsistant animation. For instance, compare Haruka when she first appears in episode 92 to when she is revealed to be female at the end of the episode. She's drawn completely different...
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Re: Unexplainable Sailor Moon

Post by Rainbow » Fri Dec 10, 2004 6:10 pm

Pipestrell wrote:Is there anything out there that you want explained but don't think any one can?

What was Haruka doing with that lemon in Ep93?
How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
Why is only Chibi-Usa's nudity kept in the dub?
Some of my answers might not be entirely serious.

1) Maybe she was going to eat it? Either that or she worked that trick out with Michiru beforehand and wanted to show off Michiru's lemon-bouncing skills.

2) Sailor Teleport. Or maybe Setsuna used her powers over Time to turn them into kids and they snuck on the flying boats with the crowd, then turned back to their regular ages in time to rescue the others.

3) Because the dubbers didn't realize that she's not just any kid. She's a kid that's drawn with small breasts. I'm pretty sure that in the manga, Chibi Chibi (who's even younger than Chibi-Usa) is drawn with breasts as well. Maybe they thought it would be cute, like the naked cherubs in paintings.
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Re: Unexplainable Sailor Moon

Post by Slrjoecool » Fri Dec 10, 2004 7:21 pm

Pipestrell wrote:What was Haruka doing with that lemon in Ep93?
Why is Setsuna stalking Usagi (with icecream) in Ep182?
How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
Does Haruka bind her breasts?
What is Haruka doing on top of that diving board in Ep97?
Why is only Chibi-Usa's nudity kept in the dub?
1. I agree with the comment about the pre-practiced trick. I think Haruka brought it along so Michiru could practice that trick, and possibly also for balance.

2. I don't really remember that episode that well, so I won't answer... ^__^

3. Also agree with the inconsistant animation answers.

4. See answer to #2.

5. Maybe the producers are child-porn addicts? Or probably because she's seen as a child, and doesn't have breasts to hide yet? I don't know!! *sticks out tongue*
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Post by NameGoesHere » Sun Dec 12, 2004 10:54 pm

I think you can tell which ones are serious and which aren't.

1.) Haruka was planning a drive-by fruiting.

2.) Naughty futuristic mating rituals.

3.) You should know by now that that attractive girls in short skirts can materialize at pastry-themed palaces of hate with a Bewitched Twitch.

4.) I would if I had to jump around so much while fighting crime, but it's probably just animation inconsistencies.

5.) Sitting on high perches is fun. I do it all the time, and quite enjoy the view of a room from high up. Perhaps Haruka likes it as well?

6.) It's just a stupid double standard. It's not okay to show anyone over a certain age naked, even in a non sexual context, because it "corrupts children," despite the presence of innocent nudity in classical artwork. But it's perfectly all right to show really young kids, butt-ass naked on diaper commercials. They think it's cute. I don't think it is, but apparently I'm supposed to.
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:02 am

What was Haruka doing with that lemon in Ep93?
I think it's a practice of some sort dealing with concentration. Remember that Usagi said she wanted to learn how to play the violin, so perhaps Haruka was trying to show Usagi the level of concentration one needs to learn how to play it with that lemon trick?

How on earth did the Outers make in to the Marzipan Castle?
My guess is that maybe they bought another helicopter from "overseas." Or like Rainbow suggested, they could've possibly hijacked one of the ships.

What is Haruka doing on top of that diving board in Ep97?
I think she was just watching Michiru and Ami swimming. What better place to judge a race than from on top of a high diving board?

Why is only Chibi-Usa's nudity kept in the dub?
I think it must've been a mistake in the dubbing. Remember that Cloverway was very rushed when they were dubbing Sailor Moon S and Sailor Moon Supers, so they probably didn't have time to check up on everything. After all, didn't the Cartoon Network have to reject an episode because it didn't meet the standards of the FCC or something?
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Post by Rainbow » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:55 am

In R, Chibi-Usa-sama's friend Momoko has brown hair. But when she's shown again in SuperS, she has purple hair. Why did they change this? Maybe someone forgot what her hair color was?
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Post by devilmaykickass » Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:15 pm

NameGoesHere wrote:1.) Haruka was planning a drive-by fruiting.
I'd have to agree...cause I mean, shes just that fruity.

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Post by jupiter23 » Wed Dec 15, 2004 1:26 pm

Rainbow wrote:In R, Chibi-Usa-sama's friend Momoko has brown hair. But when she's shown again in SuperS, she has purple hair. Why did they change this? Maybe someone forgot what her hair color was?
I have wondered about this myself, and if you noticed, the outfit she wears also changes. Anyway, the fact that someone forgot her hair color sounds good to me, because it is the only logical explanation I could think of.

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Post by SailorSpace » Wed Dec 15, 2004 8:47 pm

Why does Eudial and Kaori look alike? Are they related somehow?

Is Hotaru goth?

How did Chibi-Usa get pink hair if Mamoru and Usagi have normal hair?

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Post by peachvampiress » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:10 pm

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Is Hotaru goth?
I don't think so. She wears black clothes, but they're "normal" black clothes (I mean they're not your steryotipical goth clothes of leather, spikes and tears and what not). Her personality isn't very gothic either to me.
How did Chibi-Usa get pink hair if Mamoru and Usagi have normal hair?
How many times has this quesiton been asked? Hawk's Eye is really her father... .... ....or because it's anime and most characters have weird hair colours. Personally, I thought it was pink of all colours to make her look more cute.
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Post by MarioKnight » Wed Dec 15, 2004 9:18 pm

SailorSpace wrote:How did Chibi-Usa get pink hair if Mamoru and Usagi have normal hair?
Actually, this is simple biology, minus the pink factor, but since this is anime we'll just take the anime-only colors and consider them as rare colors to show up. It's a matter of genes that are passed down from the parents, dominant (R) and recessive (r) for various things, such as hair color. Any person can have a combination of RR, Rr, or rr (Rr anr rR are considered the same), where any of the combinations with an R will be the gene used as the determining factor, with a rr being the only case where the recessive gene will be the one shown. When genes are passed down to the child, one of the mother's and one of the father's are copied down to the child. Therefore we can assume from this that Usagi and Mamoru's hair color genes are both Rr and that both of them passed down the r to Chibi-usa, making her hair color genes an rr and using the rare color seen, in this case pink. It's how I ended up with red hair, and is proven true, and right now I'm scared of how I remembered all this without taking anything biology related in about 6 years. o.o;;;
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Post by RoastedTwinkies » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:35 pm

MarioKnight wrote:Actually, this is simple biology, minus the pink factor, but since this is anime we'll just take the anime-only colors and consider them as rare colors to show up. It's a matter of genes that are passed down from the parents, dominant (R) and recessive (r) for various things, such as hair color. Any person can have a combination of RR, Rr, or rr (Rr anr rR are considered the same), where any of the combinations with an R will be the gene used as the determining factor, with a rr being the only case where the recessive gene will be the one shown. When genes are passed down to the child, one of the mother's and one of the father's are copied down to the child. Therefore we can assume from this that Usagi and Mamoru's hair color genes are both Rr and that both of them passed down the r to Chibi-usa, making her hair color genes an rr and using the rare color seen, in this case pink. It's how I ended up with red hair, and is proven true, and right now I'm scared of how I remembered all this without taking anything biology related in about 6 years. o.o;;;
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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:37 pm

SailorSpace wrote:
How did Chibi-Usa get pink hair if Mamoru and Usagi have normal hair?
Yes, I'm sure that normal Japanese people have blonde hair and blue eyes....
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Post by devilmaykickass » Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:17 am

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How did Chibi-Usa get pink hair if Mamoru and Usagi have normal hair?
Yes, I'm sure that normal Japanese people have blonde hair and blue eyes....
A good friend of my sister, who is from Okinawa, Japan, does. Naturally too.

It may be very rare, but so are africans with blue eyes, but they're around.

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Post by NameGoesHere » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:53 am

SailorSpace wrote:Is Hotaru goth?
I doubt it. She is a very sweet, gentle, bright eyed girl. The only part of her that was dark, was the possessing spirit of Mistress 9. Just because Hotaru wore black most of the time is not an indication of being Goth.

You see, Gothic Novels focus on the darker story lines; mystery, horror, and the supernatural. Often the outcast is the protagonist, going against the traditional "popular, handsome prince saves the day" type of story, and the endings are often, but not always, bittersweet.

As an extension of the darker mindset, there are Goths. Goth is a lifestyle for people who like, and/or are fascinated with the abnormal, grotesque, frightful, and macabre. People who don't follow the social standard that all of that is bad and should be feared.

Being Goth has nothing to do with your clothing. Hell, you can wear pink and still be Goth. It's all about the mindset, the personality, and the ability to see life from a point of view that might frighten others . All of those angsty teenagers who call themselves Goth, yet call you a poser if you're not exactly like them, are hypercritical twits who just don't get it.

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Post by Rainbow » Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:14 am

Dan, that is an excellent thing about Chibi-Usa! Also, another thing is, anime characters who are related don't have to look alike. Usagi and Shingo don't look like their parents, for example. And I have an even better example of this. On Kimagure Orange Road, there are characters who are twins named Manami and Kurumi. One has brown hair and the other has blue hair!

But the recessive genes thing...that's good too, especially to use against people who don't buy the idea that anime characters don't necessarily look like their parents. And there are some that do...for example, Momoko in Wedding Peach looks a lot like her mother--they both have long pink hair.
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Post by Akarui Kibuno » Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:17 pm

Though one other reason why Chibi-Usa has pink hair might be this:

Queen Serenity had light purple hair. Serenity has blonde hair but Sailor Moon's color is always pink in attacks and all (during Sailor Planet attacks and such, all the girls have their colors and Sailor Moon is pink).

As such, it would only be logical that Sailor Moon's daughter would have the same color (pink) but she couldn't be yet another clone of Sailor Moon since she was made "naturally" (see all Moon Kingdom theories about why Princess Serenity doesn't have a father).

So, since Chibi-Moon carries the pink color naturally, it comes out normal that she has pink hair. After all, Makoto being the exception, all girls have hair the color of their natural color (though Makoto being the "nature" senshi, green for leaves and brown for earth, so it's still good).

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Post by Cardcaptor Takato » Thu Dec 16, 2004 6:27 pm

Here's another idea for the reason why Chibi-usa's hair color is pink. Perhaps it's because Takeuchi-san didn't want her to look like her parents at all? Remember, that in the Sailor Moon manga, [spoiler]the servants in the Royal Palace would bad-mouth Chibi-usa, saying that she wasn't the real daughter of the Queen and King, because she hasn't aged physically at all. Perhaps the fact Chibi-usa doesn't look like her parents at all could be another reason why people didn't think she was the real princess?[/spoiler]
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